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Tracking Down Specific Coins By Cert Numbers. Experiences? Advice?

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I was wondering if anyone had any experience and/or advice for tracking down very specific coins, exact coins you can identify by TPG cert numbers, to purchase.

Also, would it be wise to enlist the help of a dealer, especially the bigger ones (but not too big so as they don't care about one small customer) who probably have many contacts to help them track the specific coin down?
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The registration is only to the person that submitted it. Once it is sold, the registration is usually not changed. The coin could have changed hands 14 times since it was graded. Unless your dealer is with the FBI, forget about it.
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I did not mean that the cert number would be traced back to the submitter. I meant it more like I want a specific coin and I know it's the exact, correct coin I'm looking for because I recorded the cert number when it sold previously.
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I would try looking through the TPG census reports for the coin and grade you are looking for. Then see if any are for sale. If so check the numbers see if they match your numbers.

I know PCGS has a shop now button on their census reports if one of their coins is listed for public sale/auction somewhere.

This is the only way I can think of.
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I know, but the submitter is the only person you can easily find. Still, you might get lucky and find it in a registry set, so look at those. Other than that, it is highly unlikely you will ever see it again.
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It's going to be very hard to track down where a specific coin currently resides and that's probably by design. A lot of people don't want the general public to know that they own any specific coin. It might be for security reasons, or any number of other reasons. Occasionally you might get lucky and find that it recently sold at a Heritiage Auction. If that happened they have a way to make a direct offer to the person that purchased the coin. Of course this only works if the person that won the coin still owns it. And you never know if they have any interest in selling it.

Just some random thoughts.
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I assume the OP is asking about if/when a specific coin comes back onto the market again, then what would be the best way of finding this out. I would assume the OP has no intent of trying to hunt down the current owner of a specific coin and hound them into selling it.

The OP should be aware that many coins are bought by actual collectors as opposed to dealers or investors and simply are not going to be on the market any time soon. If the last buyer (and therefore the current owner) does not wish to sell and doesn't go showing their coins off on the Internet, then no-one except the current owner will never know where it is.
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Sap, that's not how I originally intended it, but seeing now, it's probably the only feasible chance I would have. It probably wouldn't work even if I could hunt down a current owner unless I offer an extremely high, persuasive amount.

This did kind of happen to me once, though not in a good way. I saw a coin at the ANA World's Fair of Money last summer but didn't buy it. I later contacted the seller asking if he still had it but he said it was sold. I then search ebay and lo-and-behold, it was listed, though more expensive ($400) than I first saw ($300). Then, that listing sold and I found it yet again on ebay, though it was now listed at $1750 (needless to say, it did not sell at this price, and the listing has expired multiple times).

I guess my best bet would be to wait.
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