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1960 D Silver Quarter Drastic Defective Planchet

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1960 D Silver quarter Drastic Defective planchet found in 90% junk silver person who sold it must have thought it was damage
coin is a nice AU55/58 I have had these on dimes and pennies before but not a silver quarter any one have an idea of what kind of premium it has and is it worth sending to NGC

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This may be a dumb question, but how are you sure that it is not PSD?
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on this one its very similar to a clip plan look directly across from the defective area the rim is very weak also parts of the coin are hollow around the defective area. Defective planchets are errors that occur before the strike and are when planchets are somehow damaged during their creation. There's numerous ways a planchet can be defective and obtain damage and each piece must be examined for authentification and to determine the catalyst for the damage. Some defective planchet mint errors look like post mint damage ( PMD) but the difference is that the planchet was damaged then struck with a die whereas PMD occurs after the strike and after the coin leaves the mint. Close examination of each coin is the determining factor.
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Potential ragged clipped planchet. Thanks, Doug.
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correct it could be considered a ragged clip but I just always go with what PCGS or NGC call it now in order to have a ragged clip the roll of metal gets over fed, the machines then cuts the ends of the roll, resulting in a ragged clip.

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It appears to be missing about 15%, what is the weight? For value, I would say somewhere in the neighborhood of $150-200. Nice rescue find, I like it
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Nice find, quite interesting. You dont see to many raged clips!
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How does the ragged clip stay so raggedy despite having gone round and round in the upset mill?
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That is pretty cool looking quarter, Nice catch.
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The side opposite the ragged incomplete planchet (I wouldn't call this a clip, as nothing is actually clipped of the planchet) is showing the Blakesley effect. That is why the strike is weak on the rim in that area. Very nice find.
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That's the raggediest ragged clip I've ever seen. The lumpy edge texture is characteristic of such errors, although not universally present. There's no reason to assume it's from the leading or trailing end of the strip. Ragged openings can form mid-strip, and when the blanking punch slices through it, you get a ragged clip blank.

See this entry for more information: http://www.error-ref.com/ragged-clips/
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How does the ragged clip stay so raggedy despite having gone round and round in the upset mill?

Because the upsetting mill is set no closer than the finished diameter of the planchet. In the area of the ragged clip the distance across is LESS then the diameter of a planchet so there is no pressure on the ragged section and it stays ragged.
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Thanks, Conder101.

Clearly the upset mill has had some affect because there are no sharp unfinished points -- and if you've ever touched unfinished metal, well, you know....

I guess I just expected it to be more smoothed out.

I have to admit, I would have assumed that this coin was damaged. I learn something new here every day!
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