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I Definitely Bought A Counterfeit Coin Today... But Is It A Henning?

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 Posted 06/19/2016  01:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DCM Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's an alteration of a genuine nickel in order to pass off as a counterfeit, it's the first time I've ever heard of it happening.
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 Posted 06/19/2016  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes this is a Henning. This one was struck from one of his reverse dies copied from a coin without the defect in the R. It is also in decent condition. This one was circulated but is not as worn as some that I have seen. The dies were made from worn coins so they are harder to grade than the regular US Mint nickels.
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Edited to stop misinformation
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 Posted 06/20/2016  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
UPDATE:
Took it today to a friend with an X-ray spectrometer (i think that's what its called) and the metal content was determined to be 99.7% copper, and a trace amount of silver. Probably a silver plated copper.
Definitely NOT a Henning. Definitely NOT a War Nickel. Definitely an intentional imitation.
$45 not well spent.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Imagine That , Someone faked a known counterfeit .
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 Posted 06/20/2016  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone know what the composition of a Henning should be?
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 Posted 06/20/2016  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From PCGS website:

Quote:
However, Henning used nickel instead of the wartime alloy to make the coins.

I think it was 80% nickel with other alloys.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not convinced yet. Did you also take along another non-war nickel maybe even from the 1940's (but not really necessary) as a standard to double check the results?
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 Posted 06/20/2016  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pyrbob-
I am respectfully questioning your statement. What are you suggesting? That the machine is wrong? Something else? When I said a friend, I meant a friend who owns a large gold and silver operation.
Are you suggesting that Henning made nickels out of other metals? (Copper)
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prybob , Is just trying to tell you that WE would have betted the barn on the photo of your 1944 Nickel to be a true Henning . No disrespect to you or your friend .
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Maybe try scratching the surface to see if its all copper underneath? doesn't have the look of a silver plated coin but
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I am not going to toy with it until I try getting a refund from the store in which I bought it. If they won't take it, and I am almost sure they will, I will try scratching it.
And as far as me getting offended, I am a whole bunch harder to offend than that
Thank you all for your input, I have gained tons from this site.
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 Posted 06/21/2016  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pyrbob is a expert on Henning nickels. I am sure he can
speak for himself.

I am thinking he feels like I do, your coin looks like a
Henning nickel. For your coin to test as mostly copper,
is very unexpected. Wanting to do further testing is just
something some of us would like to do. Your coin does not
look like a coin that is made of 99.7% copper.

This thread has me so curious, I think I will have mine tested.
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I would not rest until I tested a known genuine nickel (75% copper) with this device. You always need to test a control subject.
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 Posted 06/21/2016  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mayflower2020 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My fiance is a scientist and I get yelled at all the time for saying something is fact by testing once or not using a control.
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