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1992 Quarter DD Or MD - Attn F.i.r.

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 Posted 02/24/2008  10:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coffeegod to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
All said and done in one of the previous topics by C.C. & F.I.R. This is a 1992 Quarter with Doubling to both sides. Question being, can you have Machine Doubling this extensive to both sides, or is this a true Die as in "say changing hub" doubling? I'm only posting a few pics, but there's doubling over the entire Quarter. There's a nice double lobe also to Washingtons ear.


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02/25/2008 12:32 am
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 Posted 02/24/2008  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

This is Machine Doubling on your coin.

Think about one of the scenarios that causes Machine Doubling. Die chatter for example is a little hop of the die that can allow for a little rotation of the coin between the dies. That can move the metal on both sides of the coin. You can easily get Machine Doubling on both sides of the same coin and it can be severe on both sides as well.

I hope this helps,
Bill
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02/24/2008 10:55 pm
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 Posted 02/24/2008  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coffeegod to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks FIR, Didn't think about the chattering. Good anology.
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 Posted 02/25/2008  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coffeegod to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
F.I.R. How about this doubling?

Image: 1992-Quarter-DD-Or-MD---Attn-F.i.r. 194610cV001.jpg
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Coffeegod, my opinion, Machine Doubling with a push to the northwest. When the upper letter is smaller in width than a normal letter, this is a good indication of MD.
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 Posted 02/25/2008  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coffeegod to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I took this pic directly from Ken Potters site......Hub Doubling! I didn't say anything until someone responded to see reactions. Striking resemblance to mine. Not to be sarcastic, but look a bit more closely to both pics.
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It might be a striking resemblance upon first glance but the doubling on the 1946 dime is quite different from your quarter.
Almost every single letter of IGWT has obvious split serifs whereas the quarter has flat shelf profiled doubling with no split serifs.
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I think that the upper left of the t in Trust on the dime shows that this is a doubled die coin. Leave it to Ken Potter to know that it is from the Hub. I like it. Amazing what people know. gusp
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Thanks guys, I was just trying to compare and get feedback with a pic from a known individual in relation to my coin. They look similar, though are different. No more comments about my coin. I KNOW IT's NOT LIKE K.P. Didn't mean to test you guys, just wanted to prove a theory.
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That dime is hub doubled. You can see what we call notches on the corners of the lettering. Look for example at the TRUST on both coins.

The dime has a notch at the lower left part of the leg on the left of the R. The dime also has notches visible on the upper right of the U, the lower left of the T etc. etc.
Those are the hallmarks of a coin that was struck by a doubled die.

While the inexperienced eye may view the quarter and think that they are seeing the same thing, they are not. No notches:-) Just flat shelf like doubling which can be caused by motion of the die or die wear. There is no overlapping of immages.

I hope this helps

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Also, hub doubling doesn't always mean that the doubling is on the hub. It can also means that the doubling was caused by the hub.
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