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Fake Gold Maple In NGC Holder On Ebay

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 Posted 06/20/2016  04:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JGG to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here is the item number: 262488407656
First picture is the real coin. Second picture is the ebay fake.

Seller: http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw...harlindsales



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 Posted 06/20/2016  04:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How can you tell its fake?
Not saying it isn't, just I am not up on fake holders,etc.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  05:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No hologram on the bottom bar of the label perhaps?
The genuine label has the same font for all lines, the fake one has a different font for the cert number?
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 Posted 06/20/2016  07:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Easiest givaway on this fake holder is the hyphen between the numbers. Real ones have a curve to them (~) while this is just a straight "dash" (-).
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 Posted 06/20/2016  08:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Easy to tell both coin & holder are fake.
On the coin, look at the top tip of the Maple Leaf on
the right hand side.
On a genuine coin, it points to the bottom of the "A" in Canada.
On the fake coin, it points past the "A".

On the holder, just look at the top line of type.
It is nowhere near the same font.
There is a slight variation in the style of the Certificate number also.

JGG, suggest putting this on the Canadian Counterfeit thread.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Impossible to check the weight of a suspected fake coin in a suspected fake holder.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JGG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Jimmy, not sure how to do it or report it. NGC should be notified though, because someone is going to get soaked for $1300.

Fake: 'F' on 'Maple Leaf' text in the label of the holder should line up with the image of the scale. The micro text at the bottom of the label is missing on the fake. The bar code is not scannable by the NGC app on the fake. The barcode on the fake coin is different from the bar code on the real coin. The coin description in the label is spread too close to the edge of the holder on the fake. The real image is taken from the NGC website from their coin verification service. The leaf edge on the real coin should almost touch the 'C' in Canada, the fake is not even close. The '9999' on the real coin should be close to the leaf. On the fake there is a large gap.
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First image is the real obverse, second is the fake. Compare the 'S' in DOLLARS on both. Compare the Queen's jawline and nose in both the real and the fake coins.

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 Posted 06/20/2016  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Once you see the differences its easy to tell, someone is going to get hosed on that auction, ugh.
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Oh good grief, this is disgusting. Way to go JGG in spotting this. Although the fakery is very obvious upon close examination, notice the 2 top bidders, very experienced eBayers.
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Quote:
Once you see the differences its easy to tell, someone is going to get hosed on that auction, ugh.


Not today.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is really scary.
While not collecting the gold (not my budget), I have some and sometimes thinking to get graded bullion, without knowing exactly how the slab should be - could easily fell to this trap.

Thanks to all, identifying and removing such junk listings.
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Before bobby reported it and got it removed right away,
I sent the seller an email informing him that it was counterfeit and asking him to remove it.
(I wouldn't have done this if it was already reported)
His reply to me was that I was wrong and he
"purchased it from a reliable coin shop in Miami(Gables Coin) & have the papers to prove it"

Guess more than one person has been taken by looking for a great deal on a $1700.00 CDN Coin.
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Thanks to everyone here for getting this removed, especially the op for noticing it, and bobby for his 70's cop type movie follow up "not today" lol!

It is possible this seller got ripped off, who the heck knows anymore.
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Go ahead, make my day.
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I have some and sometimes thinking to get graded bullion, without knowing exactly how the slab should be - could easily fell to this trap.


I think that applies to most of us. Only those who accumulate multiples of the same thing would have the ability to recognize one that stands out as different.

I'd also bet that the actual coin was originally purchase somewhere as a cheap "replica". It's probably much easier for the nefarious to create a fake slab than to mint a phoney gold coin.


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It is possible this seller got ripped off, who the heck knows anymore.


I somehow highly doubt that. 100% of con-artists proclaim their innocence.

Way to go JGG and Bobby, quick action!
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