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this stood out to me against the rest and it looks to my eye, which is not familiar with the characteristics of 1935 specimen strike to possibly be one. I would love the opinions of more knowledgeable people in this community to help prove or disprove my idea of it being a potential specimen strike.

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 Posted 06/24/2016  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to say no. the mid point of the canoe is not deeply struck enough, though I see why you're asking. A few of the 1935's show this similar surface that lacks luster and has matte appearance, while most are thick with luster. I also see some dings on the reverse, these were originally issued in a case of 2, one obverse up one reverse facing out.

Would need better pics to be sure. It looks like it may have been cleaned or polished and toned over.

I see why you're asking
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thanks for the help so far guys, the coin is cropped, it is not mine but is in a streight grade ICCS holder, @JimmyD, if you look closely, the smooth edge is actually the crop job, the coin, if you look close has very well defined reeding most notable in these images at the right side of each image.
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@Alan, thankyou, you are very knowledgeable, I never knew about the cases. and yes, I've noticed a small few seem to have this different appearence that you described..could these not be specimens but struck by specimen dies? to be sure a die study would need to be done I assume but still worth a shot asking. the surfaces did catch me but the edge seems to be close to those described as a specimen strike too, it seems much more defined than many.
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Your right Dollarman. Can see it now.
Should have looked closer at the image.
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also, as a side note, it is currently in an ICCS holder but I still wanted to make sure, I have heard stories of SP examples being certified as MS by them before.
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The more common thick lustrous appearance I think has more to do with the blanks then the strike itself. The specimen of this issue should have this appearance, I need to see really clear defined pics to be more confident one way or the other.

The specimens from the the era are hard to tell without really sharp,images.

Study some PCGS specimen quarters from the era, the differences don't jump out and grab you, they are subtle. Some even look like there's wear on high points, moustache crown etc, but it's actually from polishing the die, though, you never really see bag type marks on them, because they were handled carefully at the mint.

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I just want to put In this link, looking for markers, what I see is on the "im" on the obverse, note the bottom of those letters. Very few specimens were struck for this issue, so if it's not just from the force of the strike this may be present on all the specimens. Very few images exist.
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thank you for all of the help Alan, this coin is not mine so I can't provide anymore images. you have been a great help and have a lot of knowledge, but I can't seem to see what you are speaking of as far as die markers go on the "IM"..
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Notching at the bottom of the legs on the letters. only seems to be present on the specimen.
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im not so sure, I think it could be the result of the lighting.
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this is the IMP cropped off of the known SP-65 example in the next torex auction
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That's what I would be looking for.
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bump
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Do you notice on both specimens the notching at the bottom of the "IM" ? I still haven't seen a business strike with that feature
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If you look at Dollarmans coin, there seems to be a notch at the bottom of the "I" in REGNI.
I have a 35 with a pronounced notch at the bottom of the "N".
Don't know what is the cause of these.

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