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1963-D Franklin Half RPM?

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Please tell me if you think this is an RPM on this Franklin half

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 Posted 06/26/2016  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The damage makes it hard to tell now. But it may have been a 1963-D RPM-005?
http://varietyvista.com/11%20Frankl...3DRPM005.htm
But it would have to have a DDR on the EPU area. If it doesn't then we never know for sure with the contact damage to the top of the mint mark?
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 Posted 06/26/2016  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
could be the 5. Post a pic of the E pluribus Unum so we can tell id it is a DDR or not
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Here's the EPU but I personally cannot see a doubled die formation in it.

Is it absolutely necessary to have a doubled EPU in order to have this aforementioned RPM?

If this particular coin doesn't have a doubled EPU but does have an RPM, then what type of classification would I have here?


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I realize that some subjectivity surrounded my initial photo of the alleged RPM showing a possible downward hit on the MM originating from the North.

Therefore, I shot this MM sideways pointing the camera upwards from the South to discover the other hidden areas originally obscured by the camera's angle...

The first set of yellow arrows highlights a distinct step-down appearance which could possibly lend itself to being an RPM. I lightened the second shot to more clearly show the remnants between the two red arrows of what looks to be the straight and inward tilted west part of a 'D'.

I could go along with PMD on the North side of the 'D' if the first photo was the only one available. But it would seem to be unlikely that any object would hit the 'D' on both the North and South sides and create or leave that straight line formation closest to the fields between the red arrows.

I'm all open for suggestions:


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 Posted 06/27/2016  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The EPU doesn't show signs of hub doubling. Circulation damage on the tops of the devices make it hard to see the hub doubling, but deeper things like the shape of the 'I' is not showing the bends on it. The 'R' is showing a normal vertical edge on the outside left of that device and the center of the top loop is not affected. The 'B' is also normal, not showing the hub doubling there. So this is not that die number. It maybe a different RPM that is not listed yet. But this coin is not one to submit because of the circulation damage. So hopefully someone will submit another coin in the future. If it is too minor them it may never be listed. But keep the coin and see if it is added later on. Just mark it as an unknown RPM at this point.

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 Posted 06/27/2016  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just an unknown mark on the mintmark. Could be a RPM, or a die gouge, or just a hit.
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