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Japan Hoei Tsuho - 10 Mon

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Wanted to show this one off in its own thread, being one of the scarcer coins I own for my budding Japanese type set:

Japan
"Hoei Tsuho" 10 mon, 1708

Obverse:
Ho-ei-tsu-ho (Hoei Circulation Money)
Japan-Hoei-Tsuho---10-Mon

Reverse:
Hei-kyu-sei-yo (For the everlasting use of the world / long-circulating currency) countermark Chin (Precious)
Japan-Hoei-Tsuho---10-Mon

Japan was one of the last Asian countries to hold out against the colonizing trade pressures from the West. Christian missionaries were sent in to spread Western values and turn the peasantry against their feudal lords. Sensing the threat, the Shogunate declared Sakoku, or closed borders, in 1638. All western religions were outlawed, and all non-Japanese were forcibly expelled; foreign trade was prohibited, as was emigration.

By about 1700, the copper mines started to become exhausted under the pressure of producing bronze Mon coins to fuel the economy. Japan could not import copper, so a new solution was needed. In 1708, emperor Hoei commissioned a huge bronze coin to be worth 10 smaller Mon, while containing only about 3 mon worth of copper. The coins were marked as "precious" meaning they were to circulate alongside silver coins. These coins were too large to be wieldy for daily commerce, and their relatively low face value was not popular either. After briefly attempting to force the populace to adopt these coins, the towel was thrown in, and the coins were recalled.

In 1768 under continued pressure, the 4 mon coin was introduced, to much more widespread acceptance. The 1 mon were made until 1869, being continually debased with iron until they were switched to 100% iron, and bronze reserved for the 4 mon and massive 100 mon coins.
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Great coin and backstory! Thanks for sharing.
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Oh, and how big are these coins exactly?

Japan-Hoei-Tsuho---10-Mon

Pretty darn big!
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Very cool coin and very interesting history. Now you are making me want to pursue a similar set.
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Pre-Meiji coins are troublesome. 1 and 4 mon coins are incredibly cheap and easy to acquire. 100 mon cost about $15-20 unless you get very lucky. 10 mon rarely show up; I paid $30 for this one and feel I got a very good deal.

For the non-bronze coins:

1 shu (small silver rectangle): $15-25 for common varieties, $60-100 for rarer ones.

2 shu (small gold rectangles): $25-50

1 bu (large silver rectangles): $20-50

2 bu (large gold rectangles): $60-300 depending on fineness

Various large silver koban: $300-1,000

Gold ryo koban: $1,000-2,000

Gold 10 ryo koban: So expensive it makes my head hurt

Then there's

Mameita gin: $20-500

Half chogin: $150 ish

Chogin: 200-300

As you can see, it goes up in price *very* fast.

I have bought more off of that list than I care to admit to.
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Very cool, I don't know much about Japanese coins so this is a wealth of information, thanks for sharing it!
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Interesting, thanks for sharing!
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An interesting thing to note is that the obverse inscription has a character that is repeated twice. In Chinese cash, that was taboo, and some emperors even changed their reign titles to prevent repeating characters on their cash coins.
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Double interesting note is that this coin not only is one of the two exceptions of the "legs rule" (that if the bottom two strokes of "ho" touch, it is made before 1668), but it also has both "new legs" (top) and "old legs" (left).
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Bumping this since the same seller has another one up for a very reasonable price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Japan-Edo-P...4?nav=SEARCH

Lower quality than mine, but a good $10 cheaper. This is a very solid deal.
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