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Germany - Prussia Taler 1871, Authentic?

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Greece
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 Posted 07/05/2016  09:02 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add georok to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
To me it looks authentic, a friend told me it's not.
What's your opinion?

Germany---Prussia-Taler-1871,-Authentic?

Germany---Prussia-Taler-1871,-Authentic?
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 Posted 07/05/2016  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Potsdam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

it does look authentic to me. Could you post pictures of the edge inscription and also give weight and diameter? Also check if the coin is magnetic (it shouldn't be).

These Siegesthaler ('victory-thaler') coins are quite common, even in good condition and at least here in Germany I have never seen a counterfeit on the market.

Best regards from Berlin
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Greece
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 Posted 07/05/2016  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add georok to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Non magnetic, 18 gr with a food scale..

Germany---Prussia-Taler-1871,-Authentic?

Germany---Prussia-Taler-1871,-Authentic?
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 Posted 07/05/2016  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Potsdam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Non-magnetic: fine. Edge inscription: fine.

Weight: not fine. Please try again with another scale, weight should be around 22.3 grams. Still, by looking at the images I cannot believe it is a counterfeit.
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 Posted 07/05/2016  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree it looks authentic to me but fuzzy pictures and not accurate weight measure.
I also agree it doesn't like the common Chinese fakes I'm familiar with.
I wonder if the person saying it's not authentic could offer reasons why it isn't?
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Greece
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 Posted 07/05/2016  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add georok to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Numista gives weight for the coin 18.53, NGC site also.
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Greece
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 Posted 07/05/2016  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add georok to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Albert, no my frien who said it may be fake is a coin lover, but doesn't have much knowledge of numismatics..
I asked just in case.
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 Posted 07/05/2016  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Potsdam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Georok I am sorry, I mixed up the weight. Be sure that this coin is genuine :)
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 Posted 07/05/2016  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add georok to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ Potsdam , thanks a lot!
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 Posted 07/05/2016  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To clarify. I don't mean to say your weight is wrong. 18 grams or so may very well be correct. I only imply that a food scale is not quite as good as many other low cost scales that will give a better reading. A good food scale might be within 3% or so, so it's not the best choice for a coin. Let's say this coin should be 18.55 grams. And your food scale indicates 18 grams. Not enough to fuss over other than it's not the best measure. Lets argue this even more: common fakes can be 10% to 20% under weight. Your food scale indicates only 3%. So that is in your favor to indicate the coin may not be fake.
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 Posted 07/05/2016  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add georok to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't argue that, I should buy a scale for coins.
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 Posted 07/05/2016  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Genuine, but rather harshly cleaned (specifically, polished) at some time.
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 Posted 07/05/2016  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wonghinghi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not seen a fake of this type.
No problem, it is genuine.
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