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2016 - P - Possible DDO Second Opinion

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 Posted 07/06/2016  8:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sillyjacob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, I was recently bitten by the coin collecting bug and have been addicted to pennies. I just started last week so I am still finding my rhythm while working through some boxes of pennies from the bank. I have also watched a lot of videos on double dies and trying to identify them and distinguish them from Machine Doubling or other minting errors. I believe I found a double die on a 2016 P but would love if I could get a second opinion to confirm if this is in fact a double die, however minor it may be. I tried to cross reference it with other DDOs found for the 2016 but couldn't find any which really matched what I was seeing. Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks!

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 Posted 07/06/2016  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not seeing anything but lighting tricks. Try diffused lighting.
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Thanks so much for the suggestion. I tried to get some reduced and non-direct lighting shots focusing on areas which stood out to me. I admit, with the non-direct light, I don't really see anything worth pointing out except the bottom corners of the '2' and the top and bottom of the '1'. If there was a subtle shift up and to the left in the die, would that cause these little indents?

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A pictures of LIBERTY, IGWT, and the whole coin would be helpful, also post some pictures if you see any markers. Normally you will see distortion which I don't really see. Click on this link http://doubleddie.com/1542214.html and scroll down until you see 2015 1¢ WDDO-021. This is one of my listings. Look at the distortion on LIBERTY.
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Sorry about all the photos in advance, but here are shots of LIBERTY and IGWT as well as the whole coin. I couldn't really find any blatant die markers like cracks(at least that I could identify) and I don't think the camera I'm using has enough resolution to spot the really fine ones like a die gouge. I don't really see anything on the other text such as extra thickness or distortion. GOD is the other word that looks like anything is going on but that might just be in my imagination.


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Your last three pictures are good, I do see some extra thickness in Liberty, Could you take a picture like your last one but with all of Liberty.
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Here's one with all of liberty.

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Everything looks normal to me as far as overall size of the devices. There is an issue with Die Deterioration on the coin. (tops of the devices, left side of LIBERTY and the right side of date is the usual thing to look for.
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 Posted 07/08/2016  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everything looks normal to me
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 Posted 07/12/2016  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sillyjacob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh bummer. Thanks so much for the input and information everyone! Good to know moving forward when trying to spot a doubled die.
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 Posted 07/13/2016  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't consider it a waste of time. It is an educational thread on what to look for on a coin. On this one, the Die Deterioration was the issue. You learned and countless others as well.
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