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First time posting here, any help would be appreciated. I've gotten pretty lucky collecting coins *** Private information removed by Staff. Please do not post your address/email/phone number etc. *** but I don't think I can get this lucky. I've been staring at this coin for hours in all kinds of light, angles, and magnification. I am trying to find any sign that this is not the "L" variant of the 1864 cent. Am I just seeing what I want to see? Also what grade might this coin be? Liberty except part of the Y is completely viable. The feathers in the hair are only warn on the top. The shield on the reverse has one small patch of blend, and there is only some detail inside the bottom bow. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Based on the shape of the bust (rounded) I would say no. The L variety has a pointed bust....
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes, it is the "L" variety, I can see it clearly in the second photo. That coin is in great condition, nice find!
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Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Edited by coop
07/11/2016 11:39 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm having some problem seeing the 'L' even when I zoom in.
Is there any chance you could take a more close-up photo just of the 'L' and its immediate adjacent area with the possibility of putting a small marker arrow pointing to its location?
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Bedrock of the Community
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It's there and very clear, imo. The blue arrow in Johnny's original pic doesn't extend far enough left. |
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Edited by Johnny Paisan
07/12/2016 9:32 pm
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With these new close-ups of the alleged 'L' from the OP, it appears that the angle formed between the vertical and horizontal sections of this letter form an acute (< 90 degrees) angle which is clearly different from coop's photo of an 'L' showing a perpendicular 90 degree right angle at this juncture.
I cannot envision any type of wear pattern turning an "L' into an object that tends to appear like a 'V'.
My guess is that this coin is not the sought-after variety but instead some poor attempt of placing a deformed 'L' probably done outside of the mint. I personally wouldn't buy this coin.
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New Member
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Crap, it is at an angle. Compared to the picture Coop kindly posted, it's suppose to be straight. If I rotate the coin counterclockwise it does look like an "L" but it also looks like an "H" or An "I" It must of been only a few weeks ago I found a 1944 nickel and thought I was losing my mind when it had no mint mark nor was it silver. But then I found out it was counterfeit. I think this coin is legit, but it does appear different. What do you think about the bust?  Edited by Johnny Paisan
07/12/2016 11:50 pm
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I can see the pointed bust and L as plain as day. I do use an iPad and I can expand the pics easily. Not even a question, to me, that it's an 1864-L.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Thanks for the hope! But I'm starting to think that this is a counterfeit >='[ I got it from my grandma who actually had quite a few coins that she kept over her lifetime including a a 1960 Indian Head.
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This is not a counterfeit. The "L" is there, I wouldn't worry about the exact shape. It's just some wear. There are many more factors that determine whether it is the "L" variety and everything checks out. The bust is fine, there were several date positions and bust lengths used so when you see the bust extending farther left than the one, that is normal. Also, the feather shapes are different between the "no L" and "with L". Yours matches the "with L". Also the curve connecting the nose and mouth matches the "with L". Also under the chin connecting to the neck is a different shape between the two varieties, yours is straight, which matches the "with L". I can assure you there is nothing counterfeit about this coin. I have collected 1864-L varieties more than nearly every other coin and there are things you can pick up that aren't in the books if you study them. I'll try and find a thread where I pointed out some of this stuff a while back..
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Johnny: What is the source of your image. I want to add it to my educational image files and I should add the credit where credit is due for the image. (copyright laws) With that on the image there is no infringement issues.
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