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Kyzikos, Mysia. Fifth-Fourth Century Bc. Electrum Hecte Genuine

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 Posted 07/11/2016  10:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Smokey21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I strongly belive this one is genuine and if any expat in this field advice me

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 Posted 07/11/2016  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tell us about why you are so confident in its authenticity? You bought it from a reputable source?

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 Posted 07/11/2016  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smokey21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My friend bought it his from villagers in edremit. And he is expat..he does buy always. So I do belive him
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 Posted 07/11/2016  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smokey21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I say my associated he doing this over 20 odd year and he has been studed too
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 Posted 07/11/2016  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you provide the size and weight of the coin?
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 Posted 07/11/2016  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@smokey21, it would help to know the maximum and minimum diameter as well as the thickness of the coin in the flat area of the field (to the nearest 0.1 mm). Also, I'm sure you have already checked, but is a magnet attracted to this coin?

By the way, thanks for posting it!
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I can't say for certain either way... it could be real but there are a couple of things that concern me.

Firstly the incuse square looks so heavily punched (so as to cause the cracking of the metal in each corner) more heavily punched than other hektes I have looked at, and the cracking while is occasional to the type is also much heavier than I have seen on other examples (the vast majority don't exhibit this, and where they do not as heavily)

The portrait is not pleasing around the mouth... and appears less satisfactorily than I would expect - assuming it is meant to be head of Attis right wearing Phrygian cap. On the example on wildwinds (VonFritzeI_142) the hair poking out across the cheek is also different.

I take the view that every coin must be doubted until it justifies its own authenticity... so while the coin may be good it would require further expertise to convince me.

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Well you can check it out if you live close to me I am in westmidland #daviduk
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And cracks look more then in flesh. Cause of the high countrass also not that much shine. I'll take new pic.and send it again
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 Posted 07/12/2016  04:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smokey21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also I have 2 more gold kyzikos
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I am not in the midlands and am merely offering an opinion in order that others can address the concerns I am raising.

You have not yet stated the weight... electronic pocket scales can be purchased quite cheaply and are worth the investment.

Do the others you own have such severe splits in the metal?
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No they don't also as I say split only line it's not cracking but camera we used make it look like this.. I'll take new pic of it and post it again ..
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 Posted 07/12/2016  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smokey21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And I guess between 1.6 -2 gr
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