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I've got this coin. Chinese. It is silver, I have it written down as a Hung-hsieu 1 Dollar, is yours 27 grams? I paid about £20 for mine. Not sure if this description is correct but it is the description that came with the coin!
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This should be a Chinese 'Fat Man' (or 'Fatman') dollar.

This is actually an interesting coin. Approximately 750 million of these were made, but they are apparently quite hard to find nowadays (authentic ones, that is, because there are many counterfeits).

If this is a genuine fatman, then it should be silver. Given that the condition is quite nice, it should be worth at least something. I'm not enough of an expert on this topic. Because there are quite many variants with different levels of rareness, the value may (given that this coin is indeed in a quite good condition) be somewhere from $25 up to who knows what.

If I'm allowed to post a few links, then you can find more information here:

http://www.PCGS.com/News/The-Fatman...ar-Challenge
http://China-mint.info/forum/index....topic=4460.0
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What is the difference between the two pieces?



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WEIGHT 29.54 /DIAMETER 39.64 TO 39.77 /THICKNESS 3.12
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I don't think your coin is in mint state as I do think I see some scratches and wear on the picture, so that would significantly reduce the value. Also, you've blocked out quite a bit of the picture with the red characters on top, which makes it impossible to verify two of the six characters written there.

Anyway, to be sure of what you have, you can always have your coin verified by a third party grader: they should know best and can look at the coin instead of some tiny pictures. Most coin shops in Germany (and I know that there are thousands of them, I visit some of them on a regular basis) should be able to help finding a trusted third party grading institute.

Good luck and keep us updated.
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As UltraRant has already noted, one difference between the coins is their condition. Your coin shows clear signs of wear on all of its high points. It is not in the "brilliant uncirculated" condition that the other coin is.

Also, looking at your images, you coin does not appear to have the designer's name to the right of the portrait (at about 4 o'clock). The catalog example you posted is the pattern variety with the designer's name included. This likely means your coin is a far more common regular issue vs. a scarce experimental pattern.

I would definitely have your piece checked by an expert. Your posted specs do not seem to match the standard specs of 38mm in diameter and 26.6 grams in weight.

Good luck!

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fakes absolutely, terrible writing calligraphy, not made with master copies original, primitive modern handmade
cheap token yuan (dollar) 1914 (3 years Xinghai) general Yuan-Shikai (did not become emperor,
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Thanks for all the responses.
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