Hu-Peh Province Chinese Dragon Dollar

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TobyJ Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1273 Posts	Posted 07/07/2016 12:53 pm Hello all, as I know there a lot of fakes of these about I thought I would ask to see what people's opinions are on this coin I own. To me, everything points to it being real except the weight is a bit off, 24.2 grams! It is a Hu-Peh Province, 7 Mace and 2 Candareens Silver Dragon. The text seems the right size, the right distance from the outer circumference, and I have had a Chinese friend semi-translate the reverse and it reads Hu-Bei, with Emperor Guangxu of the Qing Dynasty. I have tested it with a magnet, it is not magnetic at all. It measures exactly 39mm in diameter with vernier calipers and 2.6mm in width. It came to me from an auction with an original price tag of £200 which looked like an old tag, and I got it for way less. So just interested in people's thoughts, as I can't find any coins with the same reverse? Many thanks in advance, Toby. Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34397 Posts	Posted 07/07/2016 4:51 pm @toby, first, welcome to CCF. Second, while this isn't my area of expertise, I would be very suspicious of this one. The details are mushy, the fields are somewhat porous, but most i,portantly, several of the english letters on the obv are not complete. It screams "fake" to me, but I will be interested to hear what others have to say. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
TobyJ Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1273 Posts	Posted 07/08/2016 05:52 am Thanks for the reply. I have been reliably informed that it is a fantasy coin made in the 1980s, the reverse being inspired by the 1898 Hwei Dollar. Very disappointed. Report this Post to the Staff
wonghinghi Pillar of the Community Hong Kong 1270 Posts	Posted 07/10/2016 12:19 am A fake definitely! Report this Post to the Staff
Loaded1975 New Member Russian Federation 37 Posts	Posted 07/18/2016 06:47 am ""long time ago.." 1999-2001 sold for a long time for 5-7 yuan in Manchuria, later began to cost 10-15 yuan (inflation RUB-#20803; (CNY)). primitive mass modern token emperor Guangxu. Report this Post to the Staff
Albert Pillar of the Community United States 1912 Posts	Posted 07/18/2016 10:22 am This coin looks like one maybe having mismatched sides. It's not unusual for the fake-makers in China to make underweight coins like this. The reverse does look like a typical fake. The Manchu legend on the obverse looks oddly made as well as a few of the other characters in the below legend. I'm thinking these two sides don't belong together. Normally a dragon coin is of standard design having English language legend around the dragon reverse and then the same in the Chinese language on the obverse around Kuang Hsu Yuan Pao. Yours is something like Great Qing Silver Coin. Maybe some others can come up with something more informative than my thinking. Report this Post to the Staff
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