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Indonesia
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Just sharing. For river found coin which is Under Weight. Genuine or Fake is depend on You. Regards, Gie   *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Valued Member
Belgium
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i can't say for shure but can you add some more info please we need a picture of the other sides and also the edge or side, there should be a inscription 'god zij met ons' looking in world coins it says they where mined between 1849 and 1974 also NGC is stating this https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...0-duid-80412 |
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 Indonesia
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Indonesia
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Pillar of the Community
Norway
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I think they are both fake. There were no such coins made in 1875. Plus that both coins are over 1.5 grams underweight and they don't look that worn.
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New Member
Indonesia
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@Ultrarant: the year is not 1875 but 1873. You can zoom it if you want. So, hw about 1780?
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New Member
Indonesia
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Valued Member
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I have quite a few of these coins and they all weigh 25 grams give or take a little.
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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There are quite a lot of counterfeits of this type. The underweight together with the "spotted" appearance are very strongly pointing towards casted counterfeits. Are they magnetic?
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Pillar of the Community
Norway
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1873... I must really buy a new monitor screen (as I stated before here). Sorry about that.
Nevertheless, they're still 1,5 gram underweight, look quite a bit rougher than they should and, as bart sates, there are quite some counterfeits going around. I'm still not convinced that these are genuine.
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New Member
Indonesia
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The material is Silver.
If I said that 2 coins are Genuine, I think nobody will believe.
Coins are river found coins, that why the weight will lose arround 1.5g beside that the finenes of the coin contribute the weight lost.
(For Sure, Higher Persentage of Silver will Lose less Grams of Wight).
As you can see the black patina, The patina exist because a chemical reaction (oxidation).
Coin will get worse if there is a polutan or consist of any kind of acid when the coin at the bottom of river.
Sorry for my bad english.
Still a lot of river found coin that lose a lot of weight.
Regards,
Gie
Edited by Agikwok
07/20/2016 3:32 pm
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New Member
Indonesia
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@bart: Non Magnetic (Silver).
@Ultrarant:It' okay. Yup there a lot of Contemporary Fake Gulden with TIN material.
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 United States
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Is it just me or does the 1870 look like it was struck over another coin? Particularly on the rev, it looks like the ghost of other details in the flat fields.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Valued Member
Canada
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I have a few of these and in my opinion I think they're legitimate.
There may have been a planchet flaw on the first coin (note the large sections that look like they are chipping/flaking away) I've heard to be gentle with these types of errors but if you found it in the river I suppose there's no problem :)
Not sure about the extra metal in front of the neck though...
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United States
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My opinion is that with the purity at .945 Silver and if all the non-silver (5.5%) was leached out by the river, they should still weigh 23.62 grams and neither one does, but are very close. The corrosion could be explained by river water and usually, the Chinese fakes are much more light (3 to 4 grams) and are better dates. I have to put my opinion on real, but only a silver test would lock it down.
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Posted 07/20/2016 07:40 am
