@ecco, I'm not 100% sure, but your second coin looks like a silver Akce from Ottoman Turkey. As far as I can tell, the date is off the flan, but these are often from the 15th to 17th Centuries or so.
The writing on the first coin is Arabic, but I am bothered by the cast appearance of that coin. I'm not sure what it is purporting to be, but hopefully a native Arabic speaker can weigh in on it.
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