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Series Of 1922 Gold Certificates - Whats Your Opinion On The Set?

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 Posted 07/20/2016  06:13 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Beuamar1990 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,
I am a new member and new to the Currency Collection community, this set of bills was passed on to me a while back I'm unsure what I would like to do with the set but curious what the community thinks I greatly appreciate all responses and advice I've done a little research myself and figured it was time I made a post to get some opinions.

I am going to attend a local convention/trade show at the end of the month and was considering getting some of these graded, they all have certificates of often to authenticity, and our friend so they have been preserved well.

I do have a few questions, for those who wouldn't mind giving their input.
- If I were to have graded at the trade show what they simply take them out of the frame, ?would that be the best choice in case I did choose to sell them later on or could they be graded in the frame?

- Based on what you see and I apologize for the picture quality what would you grade these notes at?

Anyways all responses are appreciated and any help you can give a newcomer right now I just have them hanging on the wall however I am considering selling them to an individual who may have more passion for this field then myself. Thanks to all!
Now to the good stuff here are some pictures!

Last note $1 Certificate is the only note that is not a 1922, it is an 1862. There are some visible brown markings on the back of the bill, not sure how much this effects its value .






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 Posted 07/20/2016  06:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to CCF Beuamar1990.

The $50 Gold Cert is the big winner in the group.

No grading company will grade a note in a currency sleeve, let alone under glass. You should remove them yourself and put them in currency sleeves before having them graded. If you were to remove them, and scan/photograph them, we could get a better idea of the condition and value. The $20 Gold Cert is also a winner. Hopefully the frames have museum glass, which blocks 99% of the UV light and keeps them from fading.
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 Posted 07/20/2016  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beuamar1990 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
StevenInTampa,
Thanks a ton for the warm welcome! I'll defiantly take that advice and cross my fingers that the frames are museum glass! I'll try and get a good scan or picture today, as far as getting them out of the frame, I'm assuming just be very gentle and take my time so as not to cause any change to the certificates current condition. I'll also pick up some currency sleeves! Thanks a ton for the reply and welcome! It sounds like there definitely worth getting graded!
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 Posted 07/20/2016  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As far as removing the notes from the frame, you can use YouTube to watch videos on how they are put together and reverse engineer the actions. I use YouTube almost everyday for tutorials.
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 Posted 07/20/2016  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beuamar1990 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll do exactly that, thanks again for the words of advice to a newcomer! If you don't mind me asking, if I decide to sell, would it be better to sell the $20 Certificate individual of the $20 ST. Gaudens that is is framed with, it seems from what I have heard in my research it's a fairly common coin, and it would be sold based on gold value primarily. Perhaps this was I could get the $20 certificate graded and sold individually, unless I suppose someone wanted to keep the pieces tother for the visual aspect. If I do decide to sell it is a little overwhelming, I suppose I could list in forum classifieds, or sell at a trade-show. It seems that selling on a major site like ebay would be fine as well but I believe having the piece reputably graded would be a must as the buyer wouldn't be able to view ahead of the sale. What would you do!? Thanks again, hopefully I'm not taking too much of your time, I greatly appreciate it!
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 Posted 07/20/2016  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really like the notes, display, and frame. I am sure this looks very nice hanging on your wall!

If you are set on selling then I would find a way to carefully remove them and send them in to PMG for grading. Just by looking at your pictures (and without seeing the back of the notes) I think they would all grade pretty well. The $50 gold certificate is awesome!
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Connor,
Thank you, for the advice I really appreciate it, as I am new currency and the this forum you have all been extremely informative and helpful in your posts! I noticed at the end of the month PMG would be at a trade-show/convention nearby my area in Anaheim, California, I was thinking I would meet with them and do the grading at that time. I was a little unclear as to if they will grade the certificates and I will be able to leave with the notes that day graded or if they still have to take them and ship them back to me. My understanding of what I read on the website for the trade-show, and PMG is they do it that day. I figure that would be ideal as the trade-show is only a few weeks away.
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 Posted 07/20/2016  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beuamar1990 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Connor,
I took a peek at your collection, that is quiet the impressive set, must have taken some time to get a set of that size together! Very cool, glad I took a look! Your making me want to start a set!
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 Posted 07/20/2016  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beuamar1990...Thanks for the compliment.

PMG will probably grade them that day but it will cost you for any same day services. If your in a hurry, that is probably the best bet. If you have a little time you will save some money by choosing another option.

Also, this is strictly my opinion, but notes graded by PMG look so much better than PCGS. I have both in my collection. They both carry the same weight and are reputable when it comes to reselling but PMG will always be my first choice.
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 Posted 07/20/2016  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beuamar1990 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Connor,
Ok, I will defiantly keep that in mind when It comes to grading, thank you again for all of the useful information!
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So much here depends on the condition of each item, which really can't be determined from these pics. One thing seems clear - the $10 has likely been trimmed on the bottom, which kills the value (would not submit this for grading).
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 Posted 07/21/2016  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
, Beuamar1990! I like your collection look forward to hearing how they grade.

CoinFrog, why do you suspect that the $10 has been trimmed?
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 Posted 07/22/2016  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CK - It's just a guess, no more. This issue is admittedly known for tight top/bottom margins on the front, but this particular example has a very full top margin but no bottom margin at all - in fact, the design appears to have been cut into, so that a fraction of the printing is missing as well as the margin. To me, the total amount missing looks like more than you would expect judging by the size of the top margin. Make any sense?

Also, this issue is know for fairly generous side margins on the front, which this example does not exhibit - these may have been trimmed as well.

I could well be mistaken, just a thought. Either way, these factors could really hurt the value.
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For comparison, see this example.

Only speculation - measurements would settle the issue.




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I gotcha. Thanks for the detail. It looks like the mat is overlaying the note a bit, so I think you're right, actual measurements are the only way to know.
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CK - Good point for sure. To be honest, the side margins caught my eye as quickly as the bottom margin, but if indeed this is a mat overlay, you could well be right.
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