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1917 Gold Sovereign Fake Or Not?

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 Posted 07/21/2016  7:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add marcelo bentancor to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello I bought this sovereign, it weights 7,84 grams and I would like
your opinion thanks.

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 Posted 07/21/2016  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kefiroth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My first impression just from the general "look" of the coin has me leaning towards fake.

I can't tell from the pictures, but is there a mintmark letter above the date on the ground below the horse? (picture for location reference):
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The absence of a mintmark would indicate the London Mint. Since London Mint sovereigns of 1917 are very scarce, that would greatly increase the probability that this is a fake.
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it dosent have a mint mark over the date I am trying to upload a better picture . Thanks for your opinion.

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I moved your post to the UK section to reach a more specific audience. When you post pictures, please crop away much of the blank background so the image of the coin can be larger.
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 Posted 07/21/2016  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check the tail and info in the exurge (or lack of)
http://goldsovereignexpert.com/info...ounterfeits/
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Just noticed your weight is wrong.
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Fake fake and a thousand times fake. Its all in the detail. Well with this example lack of detail. 1917 being the scarcest year and worth well over £10.000. These coins are very detailed and finished to the highest specifications. The coin you show has hardly any detail at all and the ear on king George looks like it was stuck on after being cut from a pig :). They eye even looks like a cast made impression as does the dragon which bares no resemblance to the real dragon used on sovereigns. Also the tail has far more hair and is totally different in its form. That looks stuck on. I hope you didn't spend too much
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The details are mushy which gives it away as a fake. Here is a genuine example of the George V sovereign.

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Note the George the dragon slayer on the reverse has a belly and a lot more design details.

I have read that fakes like this were common in the early 20th century because there were shortages of the real thing. The counterfeits were made of gold and traded at their bullion value. If your piece is made of gold, all is not lost. It's still worth its bullion value, and has some historical support.
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 Posted 08/12/2016  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add marcelo bentancor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot for your responses. I just paid the spot price and a 5% comission.
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