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Valued Member
United States
123 Posts |
Good afternoon! I am looking for some thoughts and opinions on this coin I have had in my collection for a while. Currently it is sitting in my Dansco 7103 Album (which unfortunately is still a few coins shy of being complete), but I am considering getting it slabbed and graded just because of the coin it is. I personally much prefer raw coins and in fact do not own a single slabbed coin, but I am still entertaining the thought. Thank you for your thoughts and replies!    Edited by John Bonzo
07/30/2016 2:03 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks that the reverse has been cleaned once.
The obverse scratch likely gets this coin a detailed scratch grade.
Otherwise it is a VF20 coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am pretty sure that it is geunine. It has been cleaned at some point, and that probably explains the spots on the obverse. The obverse also has that rim nick and scratch at 12k. The reverse has VF sharpness, but the obverse does not. I'd say Choice Fine sharpness, but net graded to VG because of the cleaning and the scratch.
Even though it won't grade, certification is mandatory for a 1909-S-VDB cent. There are probably more of them now then there were in 1909 if you following my drift, and that is not good.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thank you both for taking a look! I was hoping it could sneak in as a VF, but I agree with the concerns mentioned. I am relieved to check back on the thread and not see a bunch of COUNTERFEIT replies. I have no reason to believe it is anything but genuine, but as billjones said, it's a raw 1909-s VDB so you never really know.
I'll probably send it off at some point, but I think I would like to finish the Dansco album to see it completely filled first.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would say F12 or higher and it may go through without a details grade. I would consider sending it for grading prior to selling it for an upgrade or change in collecting interest.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Based on the second reverse picture, I think you're getting too much light on the coin. The first 2 images make it look cleaned but the last one looks natural. Unfortunately, there's some damage on the obverse by WE, so it would likely be in a details holder if you got it slabbed.
Look for the die chip in the upper loop of the S, all of the SVDB's have it. Based on the pictures, it looks to be genuine but there a more fakes on there than real coins. The die chip is one of the easiest diagnostics.
F12 details
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If your collection is in an Album, I'd just leave it as is. What purpose would it be to send it out for grading? then an empty spot in your Album.
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Valued Member
United States
123 Posts |
Thanks for everyone's thoughts and opinions. Here is my second attempt at photographing the coin (this time with a USB microscope):    This is as close as I can get. I'm guessing we need much closer to see a die chip? I guess my only reason for wanting it graded is to 100% ensure authenticity. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Great key date, but definitely cleaned with a few dings also.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm with Carl: I'd leave it in the album and look to purchase a slabbed specimen if that suits you.
As with the others, an old cleaning that probably wore away the obverse details creating the disparity between the obverse and reverse grades. If only you got to it sooner!
Enjoy the coin!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Lincoln Cent with a old cleaning. Obverse Fine Reverse VF/XF This coin should be sent in to a TPG, make sure it is authentic
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Pillar of the Community
Norway
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I'm not sure about the microscope, it gets strange images. Anyway, at best this would be F15, I think. As it's a probably a key Lincoln Cent, you might want to get it graded. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree F-15 (details), cleaned and nicked but genuine (Die Pair #3).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Definitely cleaned at some point. Reverse looks VF-20, Obverse looks F-12, so I'll give it a F-15.
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