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1964-D Lincoln Penny Very Funky 4 In Date.. Lamination + Something Maybe?

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Found this a few weeks ago when browsing my coppers, and had to take a closer look. Has signs of some kind of lamination problems, but then it looks like there maybe something more to it, but I'm not any sort of expert on this stuff since I only started learning more about this side of coin collecting earlier this year. I took a few pics, then very lightly and carefully cleaned up the area a little as the dirt was getting in the way of being able to get a better look at whats going on here. I was just curious if anybody knows what exactly is (or isn't) going on here. Thanks!


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1964-D-Lincoln-Penny-Very-Funky-4-In-Date..-Lamination-+-Something-Maybe?

1964-D-Lincoln-Penny-Very-Funky-4-In-Date..-Lamination-+-Something-Maybe?

1964-D-Lincoln-Penny-Very-Funky-4-In-Date..-Lamination-+-Something-Maybe?

1964-D-Lincoln-Penny-Very-Funky-4-In-Date..-Lamination-+-Something-Maybe?

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08/14/2016 01:41 am
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There is some post strike damage on the 4, but other than that I don't see anything unusual. I must say that is some nice photography there. Very clear pictures.
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Thanks for the welcoming, as well as thanks for the reply. I took the pics with an older canon 100mm macro lens that I got for free from a relative who only needed it for a short time when doing some kind of research on teeth, anyway, I attached it to my Canon t4i and its been the best combo EVER for looking at and taking pictures of coins! But anyway back to the coin...

PSD? Partially is what I kinda thought, but maybe I wasnt clear enough in pointing out the damage that seems to go on "behind" the 4, which seems to not affect the surface of the "4" at all, but yet extends out on both sides of the "4" almost continuously, as if it was there BEFORE the 4 was..? Were you referring to this as PSD or did you even notice this part at all? Thats my mistake for not being clear on what I was asking about in my original post.

I was more concerned about that fold/crease looking object that extends or seems to goes "behind" the 4, and appears to continue from northwest of the "4" and follows a line that goes south/southeast entering into the front top of the "4".. and seems to continue on "underneath" the "4" and out on the bottom part of the front portion of the "4".. lining up almost perfectly with the part of it that is on the top part of the 4. ....?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I didnt think PSD could do damage like that? Yes, the smushing of the "4" looks like probable PSD damage, but maybe I just can't see how it relates to the diagonal line that goes from nw to se
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I say that there is 2 separate things going on in this, as I would agree that maybe PSD would be causing anything imprinted on the surface of the 4, but if you look closing (mainly at the first picture) you can see that the line that goes "through" the back of the 4 from top to bottom, doesn't seem to leave any traces on the surface of the 4, or any thing at all that connects the top line to the bottom line.. I added a picture with some red arrows and a line to help in showing what I'm referring to!
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to CCF. The area behind the 4 looks raised like a die gouge/dent maybe. It does not look like a lamination to me.
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Thought I'd take a suggestion Coop recently talked about and pay attention to the direction of lighting and shadows.

Where the lighting is from the right side looks raised. Where the lighting is from the left side looks like a divot or recess to the left side just before the raised area begins indicating a potential contact of sorts.

Also in the last pic looks like something did make contact with the "4" that's seems to be right in line with the questionable area. Thanks, Doug.

PS: and really good pictures. I like how well they magnify without distortion.
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08/14/2016 11:19 am
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Note how it flows behind the device? That means it is a die gouge as John 1 suggested. On the upright of the 4 there is also coin damage.
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