Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors 300,000 items to help build your collection!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1881 S Morgan Dollar With Strong Clash Marks, Need Help.

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 15 / Views: 2,327Next Topic  
Valued Member

United States
91 Posts
 Posted 08/21/2016  03:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Red Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I was wondering if someone with fresh eyes and more knowledge then me tell me #1 am I seeing what I think I am. And #2 the ballpark value of this coin.

Clues I see
*neck line coin from left wing
*hair under trust
*multiple other clash marks around the whole reverse.

Also I think I spot a die crack on the obverse from Liberty's head to the you in Pluribus.

Any help would be great. I've searched google ect till my eyes now feel like sand paper and I can't lock down a similar coin to gauge the price.

1881-S-Morgan-Dollar-With-Strong-Clash-Marks,-Need-Help.

1881-S-Morgan-Dollar-With-Strong-Clash-Marks,-Need-Help.

*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
Valued Member
sonchild's Avatar
United States
83 Posts
 Posted 08/21/2016  03:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sonchild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those do appear to be die cracks over the profile on the obverse and over the left wing on the reverse, but that's all I can tell from these two photos. So I do see what you're seeing. From this distance and lighting, it's hard to tell whether the rest of those marks on the reverse are die cracks as well or just PMD. (Maybe you could take more photos under a magnifier for better judgement?) As for the value, I'm no expert so we'll just have to wait for someone with more experience than me to come along. Very nice find.
Valued Member
United States
91 Posts
 Posted 08/21/2016  06:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Red Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea the marks around the coin are from the die clash. Only die crack I see is near the top of her head. Anyone that can't put a ballpark price on the obvious clash?
Valued Member
United States
91 Posts
 Posted 08/21/2016  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Red Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
FYI you can click the picture and procced to zoom into areas of intrest.
Valued Member
United States
91 Posts
 Posted 08/21/2016  06:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Red Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And all those things you see around the words are clashown marks not die cracks. Coop to the rescue?
Rest in Peace
dave700x's Avatar
United States
10625 Posts
 Posted 08/21/2016  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, it looks like a Chinese counterfeit. What is the weight and thickness?
Pillar of the Community
Dustin6's Avatar
United States
3516 Posts
 Posted 08/21/2016  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with dave, looks like a fake. Also this should be in the classic forum
Bedrock of the Community
coop's Avatar
United States
62064 Posts
 Posted 08/21/2016  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an overlay:
1881-S-Morgan-Dollar-With-Strong-Clash-Marks,-Need-Help.
1881-S-Morgan-Dollar-With-Strong-Clash-Marks,-Need-Help.
Valued Member
United States
91 Posts
 Posted 08/21/2016  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Red Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It weights 26.69g and as far as I can see the marks on my coin match perfectly to the overlay. Would any e hazard a guess on its value?
Edited by Red Man
08/21/2016 10:36 am
Bedrock of the Community
coop's Avatar
United States
62064 Posts
 Posted 08/21/2016  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The clash probably would not add any value on your coin. Depending on grade, you could check ebay.
Pillar of the Community
CoinCents's Avatar
United States
3656 Posts
 Posted 08/21/2016  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can post your coin here on the US Classic coin grading forum and ask for assistance with grade and value.

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...FORUM_ID=134

Rest in Peace
twodsonegf's Avatar
United States
637 Posts
 Posted 08/24/2016  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twodsonegf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Chinese must have done a die swap because there are no OBV clash marks to correspond with the ones shown on the REV. Nice counterfeit Clashed E variety lol. I'd LOVE to see the hair vee on that OBV before it was taken out ;)
Rest in Peace
twodsonegf's Avatar
United States
637 Posts
 Posted 08/24/2016  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twodsonegf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I may have actually seen this exact coin online once. If not, the pops just went up 1!
Valued Member
AU90o's Avatar
United States
199 Posts
 Posted 08/24/2016  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AU90o to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely a cast type counterfeit.
See if it stick to a magnet.
Pillar of the Community
Jaobler's Avatar
United States
6384 Posts
 Posted 08/27/2016  03:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reverse looks identical to that of the counterfeit 1893-S dollar I bought from the teller at Wells Fargo a few months back. That coin was magnetic and only weighed about 20 grams. I paid $1 for it. Since your piece has the correct weight it might actually be made of silver but unfortunately is almost certainly a fake.
Bedrock of the Community
Conder101's Avatar
United States
17884 Posts
 Posted 08/27/2016  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mintmark looks all wrong and there are raised blemishes in the field around AM. 99.9% convinced it's a fake.
  Previous TopicReplies: 15 / Views: 2,327Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.34 seconds to rattle this change. Forums