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What " Official" Has This Catalogue?

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Hello
Surfing on internet, I found a price guide on which it is written " Official....."
What do you think about that word?
Is there something " official" in the prices for coins?
thank you


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 Posted 08/21/2016  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A marketing ploy, muck like 'industry standard'.
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 Posted 08/21/2016  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just like "limited edition"...... Which means it's only "limited" by how many they can sell!
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 Posted 08/21/2016  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldephriam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! I haven't seen one of these since the mid 70's. I didn't even know it was published anymore. When I started collecting in the early 1970's I somehow found the then current edition of this guidebook. I loved it and preferred it over the
RedBook, I think it had to do with the size of it and the shortness of the articles. I didn't know what I was doing back then. Now that I think about it I'm sure the "official" part of the title is to convince tweenage boys that are starting to collect coins that they have something important.

Yes, I was really that ignorant.
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Perhaps the "official" is to indicate that this is the current year (indicated on book) of the series started long ago, and not just another coin book called the blackbook.

The RedBook and bluebook also use the term "official".

The RedBook started using "official" in its title in 1999. From 1947 to 1998, "official" was not used.
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 Posted 08/21/2016  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really do object to these sorts of verbal shenanigans. "Official" has a meaning:

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official, adjective
1. relating to an authority or public body and its activities and responsibilities;
2. having the approval or authorization of an authority or public body;
3. employed by an authority or public body in a position of authority.

You'll see the core of each subdefinition of "official" is the phrase "authority or public body". There are "authorities" for coin issuing but there is no such "authority" for coin collecting. There is no US Government Department of Numismatics, no United Nations Secretariat of Collectables that would have the "authority" to declare a coin catalogue to be "official". There are numismatic associations such as the ANA, but they have very loose controls over the terminology and are in no position to grant "officialness" to anything numismatic, since no-one is forced or heavily obliged to become an ANA member if they want to be a coin collector.

Yet the advertising industry in America seems to have turned it into yet another meaningless weasel-word you can slap onto your product in the hope that it sells more stuff. I can only assume that there was some law case years ago that ruled that, in the absence of an actual government authority or professional organization on a subject, anyone had the right to declare themselves an authority and call themselves "official".
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My official opinion is that the word 'official' is being abused here. I agree with Sap here.

For what I know about coin prices is that anyone can ask anything for any coin and should just hope to find one idiot who wants to pay that certain price... There will not be a coin police knocking on your door when you ask once cent more than specified in some obscure book.
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It kind of goes like this "I authorized the publishing of this book, that makes me the authority, so it is Official."
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"The Official Blackbook" is just a brand used by House of Collectibles for over fifty years now. They have them for all kinds of collectibles, not just coins.

I previously posted a picture of one I had obtained in my youth.

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