Proof Set Error? 2016 150th Anniversary Of The Transatlantic Cable Proof Set - Page 2

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jake222 New Member Canada 24 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 1:31 pm Thanks again for welcoming me to this forum. The $99.95 2016 Special edition silver dollar proof set of 150 snniversary of the Tranatlantic Cable does not have a gold plated proof dollar ..This one did.. The 229.00 edition does but the one I got is the same coin as the silver edition with the gold plated horizon...Here is my pic Report this Post to the Staff
JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21599 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 2:12 pm I have three areas of concern about the authenticityof this Dollar. 1-The case is cracked and could have been opened. (Would the PO sell a set with the case cracked?) 2-It look to me like it was gold plated AFTER the coin was printed. I'm sure it would not have been gold plated at the mint. 3-If it was a hybrid, which is remotely possible, the only gold plating would be at the bottom and top as per the proof set. Again, this is only my opinion and areas of concern. Report this Post to the Staff
SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10456 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 2:23 pm Could it be a normal silver coin, but toned? If it sat in a showcase window for a long time, in sunlight, at the post office, the silver coins can turn this colour... Please show us a photo of the other side. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Report this Post to the Staff
ace_ftw Pillar of the Community Canada 1747 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 2:41 pm XRF Time? Report this Post to the Staff
Alex A Pillar of the Community 710 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 4:12 pm This is the SE proof set. The silver dollar coin might be discoloured or toned? Edited by Alex A 08/25/2016 4:13 pm Report this Post to the Staff
wilsonwu89 Pillar of the Community Canada 705 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 4:29 pm I don't think this is a special coin. The case has a major crack in it that let air in. It is so common for these sets (even without cracks) to tone over time. The crack in the case definitely accelerated this process. Since the other coins in this Special Edition set are nickel, they did not tone. If the other coins were silver, I'm sure they would have turned gold too. Example of how badly these things can tone: Edited by wilsonwu89 08/25/2016 4:33 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Northerncoins Pillar of the Community Canada 2019 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 4:33 pm ug_qxQoQtYI Report this Post to the Staff
Northerncoins Pillar of the Community Canada 2019 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 4:37 pm Quote: The case has a major crack in it that let air in. It is so common for these sets (even without cracks) to tone over time. The crack in the case definitely accelerated this process. Hmmm mystery solved? maybe so. Report this Post to the Staff
jake222 New Member Canada 24 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 6:05 pm Wilsonwu89 do you think the other side would tone down also as it is getting air too...The color is too uniform no blotches of silver anywhere..here is my pic. Report this Post to the Staff
wildflowerAB Pillar of the Community Canada 2845 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 6:11 pm That the case is cracked may also be an indication the SD was removed and tampered with. How to artificially tone a silver coin with an egg. This would make an interesting experiment. This is the YouTube link. I thought I knew how to properly post YouTube videos, but obviously not. BixzLd__k-c Edited by wildflowerAB 08/25/2016 6:19 pm Report this Post to the Staff
wildflowerAB Pillar of the Community Canada 2845 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 6:28 pm Thank you, however that came to be. Report this Post to the Staff
darryldarryl Pillar of the Community Canada 2425 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 6:51 pm Quote: The case has a major crack in it that let air in. It is so common for these sets (even without cracks) to tone over time. The crack in the case definitely accelerated this process. "Tone over Time" Its been less than a year since the release of this coin. I don't think it could tone that much and uniformly in that time frame. Report this Post to the Staff
wilsonwu89 Pillar of the Community Canada 705 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 6:54 pm Yes it can completely tone on one side. I have an SML that I accidently left open in my room. One side was in the capsule, I forgot to cap the other side closed. One side turned absolutely black and cruddy, while the other side looks brand new & pristine all in less than a year. It all depends where the crack on the case is (in your case, the front of the case, the front of the coin is toned), and how the air is circulated in the set. Not saying it can't be an error. But with the cracked case, it's most likely just toning. And coins can tone very fast depending on the environment it's in. Though I think a member here has an XRF machine that may be able to help :) Edited by wilsonwu89 08/25/2016 7:44 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jake222 New Member Canada 24 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 7:51 pm So to run it through an xrf I will have to take it out of the case to do that right Report this Post to the Staff
Redzapsid Pillar of the Community Canada 1571 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 8:51 pm I'm leaning towards toning. It's not often (probably never) that a single coin gets made in error. It would have to deliberately be made by someone at the mint, who has all to lose and nothing to gain. Was the case broken when you bought it? Report this Post to the Staff
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