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CCCS Representative
Canada
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Hi Guys I hope this is the right forum or section. I have these coin and not sure if they are ok. I explain, are they 100% genuine ( host & counterstamp )or one or both are fake. The 2 on the left with the British counter weight 27.2 g, the 4 to the right with the portuguese counter weight 27.0 g (2) and 27.1 g (2) the bottom one (1722) weight 25.3 g, that one does not have a counter. I hope the picture are ok. thanks for your opinion   |
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CCCS Representative
 Canada
17 Posts |
Let see these image may be better   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7629 Posts |
My opinion is they are Chinese replica coins with faked counterstamps. The toning and toning spots around the rims are highly suspect.
I hope I'm wrong.
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Moderator
 United States
54283 Posts |
Not a chance the top 6 are authentic; I don't know about the bottom one.
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CCCS Representative
Canada
17 Posts |
Why are the top 6 fake for sure. I want to see if my own conclusion is the same as you guys
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Moderator
United States
54283 Posts |
I take it back, all of the coins are fakes. I base this on the fact that the Chinese have made and still make these exact fakes. There are a few posts here on CCF about them already.
What makes you think they are genuine?
Did you pay a lot for them?
Did you get them from a reputable source?
Is this a test?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7629 Posts |
As I stated previously they LOOK like fake Chinese replicas to me based on the color, toning (and the fact that if they were genuine they would already be in third party graded and authenticated holders). Viewing the coins in hand would make our task of opinionating coins a lot easier but it just doesn't work that way around here when we are all thousands of miles apart.
So, the opinion on your coins (so far) is that they are all fake.
Step up to the plate and state what YOUR opinion is, why you think they are genuine (or replicas) and where they came from. If you bought them off the internet from a fly by night seller I can guarantee your coins are 110% fake.
We are all here to help each other out.
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CCCS Representative
Canada
17 Posts |
They are not mine but a customers. I have been unable to conclusively find the combination of date/base coins with the counter for all 6 counters and no picture in catalogue or description matching the 1722. They were purchased in Cuba a short while ago by their owner. They do look a bit like other counterfeit I saw from China but the weight is so close to what it is suppose to be and they ping like silver...Thus my asking here maybe there is some people that know more about those.
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09/05/2016 1:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7629 Posts |
Thanks for the update.
The Chinese have been known to make counterfeits out of silver. They'll pretty much make whatever you want out of whatever metal you want. That's scary.
I would return the coins to your customer and have him decide what his next steps will be. For now, I'd be very leary of those coins.
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CCCS Representative
Canada
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Does the combination of counterstamp and base coins exist for bot the British and Portugese?
I tested the coins and they test positive even after a 3rd rub on the same spot.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If he's trying to sell them to you, just advise him to get them to a TPG for authentication and then you'll consider a purchase. If he just wants to know if they're real, tell him your outreach resulting in several folks terming them as fakes, and he needs to go to a TPG for authentication. Tourists are common targets for ripoff artists. |
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Posted 09/02/2016 5:52 pm
