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Couple Of 1998-P 25c DDO's... Maybe?

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Hey all,
This is only my 2nd post here, but my first one in reference to DDO's. Ive been doing as much research and info gathering as I could over the past few months about all the different kinds of double die(s) there are and how to spot the differences between them and Machine Doubling, and I'm just like anyone posting what they think is their "first real" DDO here to get 2nd opinions, most of which ends up being the opposite of what the poster was hoping to get as far as confirmation about their "high hopes" discovery. And with me being a realist when it comes to a lot of things in life, but enough about me, on to the 2 coins in question, both are 1998-Ps, one is in fairly good condition, the other not so much. You could say they are pretty easy to tell apart. Basically, I'm just looking for input on what is going on with each coin if I'm not correct about thinking these are pretty clear DDO's (both mainly prevalent in "GOD WE TRUST"). And the reasoning's for them "not" being DDO's in your opinions. Appreciate any useful comments as well. Sorry, only had my phone to use as a camera so not the best in terms of zoom, but if they end up being worth a 2nd look with more detailed close ups, I can always make that happen if interested is peaked by some. On to the coins! Again, sorry for the poor quality on these, I didn't have my good camera available.. ugh.. the quality is bugging me.. so badly..it hurts my eyes if I stare at them too long!

Couple-Of-1998-P-25c-DDO's...-Maybe?

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OR from what I can gather, other coins of this same date seem to have a problem with similar doubling that people seem to think is actually due to some kind of Die Deterioration Doubling.. I think? Doesn't help that the quality on these is bad... I think i'll be getting out the good camera soon for a coin photo shoot, its been a while and I'm over due for the next one.
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I did a quick search on the two sites I know of (Wexler's die varieties and Variety Vista) and didn't see any known DDOs for that year for Philly or Denver. (there was one listed for San Francisco 1990-S proof but not on the motto, date and mint mark) But on your coin I see more of an issue with circulation flattening than showing hub doubling on the die that struck your coin. I looked through the series of 50 states and noticed a common thread there. With the single squeeze dies, the only devices shown as a doubling was mainly on the ear area and a few other examples of minor doubling on the reverses. With the single squeeze die process, the die often starts in an incorrect position, then snaps into place leaving a small kiss area then the rest of the devices as normal.
Couple-Of-1998-P-25c-DDO's...-Maybe?
This usually affects the central area of the die (the ear on quarters). (I found nothing affected on the mottos) So we could rule out this area on the single squeeze dies. On the multi-hubbed coins, it happened a lot in that area. The proof die I mentioned earlier had two digits of the date and the mint mark affected. (yes mint marks can show hub doubling because it is part of the design since 1990 forward. But Like I mentioned, I see nothing on your coin that looks like hub doubling.
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