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Can Anyone Tell Me About This Oddball Character For One Yen?

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 Posted 09/11/2016  01:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Doesn't look like it should- anyone know anything about it or seen it before? Maybe explain why it's what it is?
This is a Japanese coin, but it should look similar to One Yuan if it was Chinese.


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 Posted 09/11/2016  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjherbison to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could you show us the whole coin, or provide type information? I looked at a few coins and the Yen symbol is different/simpler.
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 Posted 09/11/2016  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes here is the 1870 Japan One Yen coin with the oddball character in place of the normal character in the legend denoting "One Yen".

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 Posted 09/11/2016  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjherbison to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't like the overall look and feel of that coin. The sheen. The way the scratches in the field seem to go behind the design. There's one scratch that seems to go between to denticles.

Looking at the symbol, I suspect it means something like "replica". Use Google Translate to convert English "product" into Chinese (Traditional) and you get "#29986;#21697;". Compare that to the top two-thirds of the symbol.
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 Posted 09/11/2016  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjherbison to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting. The Chinese letters show up perfectly for me in the preview screen, but not when I submit the reply.

This link might work: https://translate.google.com/#en/zh-TW/product
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 Posted 09/11/2016  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe you are right!
I translated the image by drawing it in my Chinese-English dictionary and came up with meanings like: imitate, copy, facsimile, counterfeit, mimic, etc. The denomination on this piece must mean "One Copy" or "One Replica". I'm documenting an assortment of odd pieces and now I know what comment to write down about this one. It was presented to me as a counterfeit Japan One Yen coin. It must be a tourist gift shop souvenir piece.
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 Posted 09/23/2016  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed a replica coin, one of the many many Chinese fakes
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 Posted 09/24/2016  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, I don't think I've ever seen such a replica. Interesting though to be honest.
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 Posted 09/24/2016  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I liked it because it's the first one that seems to actually denote being a replica. All the others I have are ordinary Chinese made fakes using the correct denomination. That's why I think this one may be some sort of honest souvenir or gift shop item.
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 Posted 09/26/2016  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bungle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is two characters, written vertically.
It means replica, like how copy would be used in the US.
I added the relevant entries from a Japanese-English dictionary to your pic.

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Pronounced sanko.

In the usual usage, one more character is added, hin, meaning "item" to make the word sankohin.

I don't think the word is used that way in China. In Chinese it has its more literal meaning of "sample."
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