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First of all, this coin has 12-inch mirrors on both sides and the contrast is there. The sellers pictures are much better than mine, so let's just assume it's DMPL (or PL at worst). I thought this could pull a 63 when I bought it, but I noticed something on the reverse when I received it. It appears to have two rim dings above the right wing (or the eagle's left wing if you want to get technical)...between "OF" and "AMERICA". The top one is more noticeable. If you look at the rim from the side, you don't notice it, and it obviously only applies to the reverse. How much do you think this impacts the grade? I can easily return this. It comes from a very respectable seller who will gladly take it back. I just need to figure out what I want to do. I was going to submit this for grading, so opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.   Edited by 40Proof
09/14/2016 2:02 pm
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Agree it does look PL Probably DMPL like you say. Having said that the chatter in the fields on both sides puts me at MS63
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Thanks, Mont. My concern is the rim dings, though. How much does that knock down the grade?
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Obverse contrast is weak but if it's got 12" mirrors then I would say 63 DMPL is appropriate. Strike is above average for a New Orleans coin. The rim hits, being located on the reverse, and relatively minor, do not severely affect the grade, in my opinion.
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Thanks, Paralyse. As I mentioned, my pictures are lacking. The seller has a much better setup to photograph coins, particularly when it comes to lighting, and the contrast is much stronger than you see in my lame image.
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Thanks, Mont. My concern is the rim dings, though. How much does that knock down the grade? Your welcome, and I agree with Paralyse, the rim dings are too minor to hold the coin back. |
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I agree with 63DMPL based on your photos and description. I'll add that it's a VAM-2 which seems to be readily available in PL condition. The die gouge off the letter I makes for easy attribution for any one looking for one.
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Thanks for pointing that out, Dave. I'm not very knowledgeable about varieties, but after doing a little research, you appear to be correct. Also, I just realized I can use the "direct" function to insert pictures, as opposed to having to upload them. I've been having to dumb down photos in order to meet the upload requirements, which has really been hindering my images. Here's an 1880-s that I'm considering sending to ANACS, too. Unfortunately, only the obverse is DMPL, but I believe they'll note that distinction on the holder. You can see the details much better with this one than the pics I used for the 1883-o.  Edited by 40Proof
09/14/2016 09:23 am
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It doesn't look DMPL to me. The obverse field in front of the face disqualifies it IMO. The mirrors and frost need to have 100% coverage, or darn close to 100%, and this coin doesn't appear to have it. That said the original coin posted looks 64 to me. MS64PL would be my grade.
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For better or worse, I updated the photos in my initial post. Also, is there a source for determining what qualifies as DMPL? I know there are certain thresholds that have to be met, but some of them are clear while others are not. In other words, some seem subjective (at the discretion of the grader), and not all grading companies are the same. Obviously, photos can make a coin appear DMPL when it's not, and vice-versa, based on quality of the image, lighting, editing, etc. I know what I have based on those things I can accurately measure, but it's difficult to gauge the other variables.
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09/14/2016 3:33 pm
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Agree 63DMPL, shot at 64.
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MS63 it does appear DMPL. the 83'O' strike is typically average to a bit soft. you have a pretty nice strike on this one. better than average
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