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Pillar of the Community
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please. give the grade on this coin & an opinion if it's real. A couple of comments: a. The weight is 26.71 g. and has the characteristic PM ring when struck with another coin. b. The coin actually has much more of a cartwheel effect and luster than what is portrayed in the photos. Depending upon the responses I may take an additional axial shot to accentuate these features referred to in b. above.   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Some of you MM specialists might like this close-up shot of the S:   |
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Pillar of the Community
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For the sake of comparisons here is a hi-res download snip from CoinFacts of a 1884-S Morgan also:  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks legit probably a mid AU.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The surface looks dull, like it was clean with a jewelry cleaner removing part of the original surface that would have been shiny. (bummer) The feathers are mostly gone from the breast. So I would think at the highest AU53, but the cleaning could drop the grade even lower. Tough call on just images sometimes.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It appears genuine with AU50 detail. This date is common in circulated grades but is a better date as I'm sure you know. This looks like a $100 coin to me.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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My major concern was that of the mint mark's authenticity:
1) What is that stuff within the lower loop of the 'S' on my coin? I refer to the 1 to 7 o'clock tilted 'filament' appearing to connect the mid portion of the 'S' to the lowest curved part of the 'S': possible overdate or other?
2) Why does the upper loop in my 'S' appear to be an elongated oval while the PCGS MM looks more circular?
3) Does anyone have a better representative photo of a genuine 'S' MM more in line with what I now possess in hand?
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Rest in Peace
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My major concern was that of the mint mark's authenticity:
1) What is that stuff within the lower loop of the 'S' on my coin? I refer to the 1 to 7 o'clock tilted 'filament' appearing to connect the mid portion of the 'S' to the lowest curved part of the 'S': possible overdate or other?
2) Why does the upper loop in my 'S' appear to be an elongated oval while the PCGS MM looks more circular?
3) Does anyone have a better representative photo of a genuine 'S' MM more in line with what I now possess in hand? Click on the link I posted above. It is a die characteristic of VAM-3. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Looking at it now it appears cleaned...,granted my original grade was after I woke up at 6am this morning for work lol....was still half asleep
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Bedrock of the Community
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Agree, 53 and likely cleaned.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm at AU53 also. this date is known for stronger than normal strikes. yours would be below average. as for cleaning...not sure...it may have been dipped at one time but not overdone. I think it would grade straight
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Pillar of the Community
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These two new shots taken with only fluorescent lights are pretty representative to what this coin looks appears to me in my hand. I think I can see a bit more of the cartwheel trying to peek through. Please let me know if these new ones change any minds w/r/t to if one cleaned it at some point and/or if the grade should change from previous opinions expressed. I took these photos with my dedicated iPhone 4S coin camera. thx   |
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Oh, I forgot to mention that just on case a newbie is checking out this thread, double clicking on these new photos will expand them to fill up the entire screen for easier inspection.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'd still grade it AU50 and lightly cleaned (likely market acceptable for problem-free).
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Posted 09/15/2016 04:51 am
