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Buying Via The US Mint From Canada -- Shipped With UPS -- Brokerage Fees

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 Posted 09/20/2016  10:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NeoSpec to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Well that mistake seems* to have worked-out in my favour..... I'd enrolled to get the 2016 American Silver Eagle dollar but decided the card I'd used was too close to it's limit. In attempting to swap over to a different card on the enrolment it seems all I actually managed to do was double subscribe. Well yesterday UPS showed up with two packages, one "C.O.D."** to the tune of ~$27. So, needless to say I told UPS they could stuff their brokerage fees. Of course it's not certain that I'd have received a package C.O.D. with a single enrolment, but it's certain that with the mistaken double shipment I got one that *wasn't*.

I would have been really bummed to get only one coin and to have a 50% tax in the form of a UPS brokerage fee on it. So, I guess it will all work out (once US Mint get's their coin back and I get my refund, at any rate)... To the Canadians who order from the US Mint, how often is this a problem?

If it all works-out okay I may order from the US Mint again in the future, but I've been extorted by UPS enough (gotta love how NAFTA means big businesses can muck with the economy, but individuals still get unreasonable tariffs, and other forms of extortion to deal with when cross-border shopping....) that I have a new policy when dealing with UPS: when they pull this stunt, simply refuse the delivery. I wish everybody would do the same.

* Still waiting for UPS to successfully return the coin so I can call on the US Mint to credit me.

** As COD usually implies paying for a product at the point/time of delivery, UPS really means "We've randomly selected you for extortion, we know you already paid for this, but now we want you to pay *us* for it too." A new twist on COD.
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 Posted 09/20/2016  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just read that post somewhere...
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 Posted 09/20/2016  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NeoSpec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yesterday I asked "To the Canadians who order from the US Mint, how often is this a problem?" on the thread about the release of the 2016 ASE, but I decided hijacking that thread might not be the best way to hear from others who've dealt with UPS and their "import fees"....
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 Posted 09/20/2016  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cderksen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also order for the USA, but I try to get it sent USPS.
United States Postal service and Canada post are like brother and sister.
I've never been changed brokerage fee's, but I've been charged duty a couple of times.
UPS charges me brokerage on an item that I got for free.
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 Posted 09/20/2016  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or you could go with a precious metal dealer that's already in Canada... and you don't have to worry about import fees and duties.

Usually items that cross the border and have a declaired value can be subject to custom fees as there's paperwork to fill out.

Usually the fee is the same.. not a percentage of declared value... So regardless if the item is $2000 or $200 the fee may still be same.. they have to pay someone to do the paper work ...

I recommend looking at some place north of the 49... they deal in CAD so your card doesn't ding you in exchange fees ... there's no problems dealing with it going across the border.. it's a much better shopping experience IMO.

If you're that set on ordering stuff from the states I would suggest that you have a P.O. box or place where you can ship to in the states pick it up and bring it back yourself...
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 Posted 09/20/2016  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NeoSpec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
cdersken - I've had the same experience... UPS is about 50% fail-rate for the tariffs but USPS->CP has usually worked-out without any troubles.

AgCoinAu - I suppose if I thought I saw another opportunity like the 2016 Liberty Silver Medal I might have the item(s) shipped to family in the USA, but for run of the mill things like ASEs I think I'll definitely be taking my business elsewhere unless I can get US Mint to *not* use UPS when they ship my direction... not worth the trouble of getting family involved for something like that....

Thanks for the feedback.
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