Let's Play Which One Is The Counterfeited Coin

FYI, there's a specific subforum for British on here, in case you weren't aware...

Eh... for Coin #2, I'm seeing a typical higher-grade Jubilee crown saved as a souvenir, given a wipe or two over the years, now has retoned a bit unevenly/retained tone in the protected areas.

Forest through trees?

I just tested my assumptions by checking the first 15 1887 Crowns that came up in a search of Heritage's archive using 1887 Crown England as the defining statement.

I checked the inner circle - the letter E - the high rim finish - the die dots and markings I observed.

I could have gone further but none of the 15 display the noted features any more that incidentally. Two of the letter E's show some bifurcation that is not uniform but neither is as deep or uneven as this case. In addition nether is sharp enough to be positive. There were 4 cases where a clear collar seam is visible as a typical wire rim but in no case is the wire as thick or as extensive as the subject coin.

The subject coin also has a doubled eye on the queen - this is often observed on soft matrix transfers because part of the still plastic impression re-contacts the host coin and picks up a second partial impression. That double eye should be a known die error but I did not find such an error.

realeswatcher, I was not aware of that there's a specific subforum for British coins here. If the forum moderators want to move this thread to a more appropriate forum, they can do it.

I really appreciate the opinion of all here, I'm learning a lot.

Sorry for the quality of the pictures, this does not help much in this discussion, I use my iphone. I have taken others with different light orientation. I have realized that the inner circle does not appear clearly because there seems to be a step up instead. I saw a lot of 1887 UK crowns over internet with this characteristic.....problem!

swamperbob, may I ask for your views on this one:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/141965510530...RK:MEBIDX:IT

Four recent UNC examples off Heritage: Clear variations in the rim upset... some differences in the E of REG (actually notice a rather plain chip out of the bottom left of the stem of E on coin 4)...

Also, on that "inner circle" (the border between the inner part of the denticles and the small ring of field before the legend)... seems to vary between between appearing a bit raised vs. simply being a flat cliff.