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Sl Quarter - Did I Get Rooked?

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 Posted 09/30/2016  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have a scale that does grams. Will break out the magnet!
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 Posted 09/30/2016  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A jeweler could weigh it. The proper weight is 6.3 grams.
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09/30/2016 7:23 pm
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 Posted 09/30/2016  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It seems Miss Liberty is not attracted to magnets.

I think I will take it to a dealer I'm comfortable with and let him look it over. Will let you guys know what he says. It may be awhile, though. I've blown my coin budget for awhile.



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 Posted 09/30/2016  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope that my slight suspicion proves unfounded. Good luck!
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 Posted 09/30/2016  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saruma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You really should get a scale. Harbor Freight has a digital scale for $11, and they are always sending out advertisements in the mail with 20% off coupons. So it would only be around $9.

Plenty of other places sell scales too, but I HF is often the cheapest place to find something like that.

http://www.harborfreight.com/1000-g...e-60332.html
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 Posted 10/01/2016  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! Added scales to my "to buy" list.


ETA LOL! So then I googled "gram scale" and the first image hits all show green crumbly plant stuff on scales. I guess coins aren't the main thing those scales are used for. At least I live in the right state--bound to be plenty around to buy!
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 Posted 10/02/2016  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like this coin. looks AU-53. Better pictures in natural daylight may give us a better idea if it was cleaned before.
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 Posted 10/04/2016  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I took the coin to a dealer I like, and they looked it over. They graded it VF, reckoned it was worth $30. So I did get a pretty good deal. Might have to check out that shop where I got the coin again!!
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Congrats! Good buy.
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 Posted 10/04/2016  03:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kkirby99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Detail is way better than VF. Most of eagle feathers are visible.
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 Posted 10/04/2016  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is always sort of odd that a coin that old has no dirt inside letters or numbers. The coin does have wear indicating it has been in circulation and that means there should be some dirt inside some of the letters or numbers. Yet for that grade and that price you did OK.
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Did the dealer offer you thirty dollars for it? If you take the coin to be appraised and the dealer tries to buy it from you that is unethical unless you offer first to sell it and then it is still not right. The person who appraises a coin or object of any kind should not be the buyer. They have conflict of interest. I think it is much better than VF just due to the date and the eagle on the back. To find any SLQ with such a good date is rare before the year 1925. I saw a 1923-S on ebay that was graded EF and it did not even have a full date.
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Did the dealer offer you thirty dollars for it? If you take the coin to be appraised and the dealer tries to buy it from you that is unethical unless you offer first to sell it and then it is still not right. The person who appraises a coin or object of any kind should not be the buyer. They have conflict of interest.


IMHO, this is simply not true. Typically, when dealers do estate appraisals, they will charge a fee. They will give a retail appraisal and/or simply a wholesale appraisal. They may offer to pay the wholesale price and thus forgo a fee for the service. If someone brings a single coin or a handful, the dealer likely won't charge but may ethically make a wholesale offer.

My guess is that the $30 appraisal may well have been a wholesale value. It's difficult to say, without seeing coin-in-hand or having more details. While our OP's coin appears to be XF or better, the dull gray color MAY be a problem.


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To find any SLQ with such a good date is rare before the year 1925.


I agree that the 1923-S quarters are rare in any grade. The majority of dealers at any given show will not likely have one in stock. IMHO, to say that any four digit SLQ prior to 1925 is rare is simply not true. Virtually every dealer at a given coin show will have multiples in stock. Where coins are concerned, the word "rare" is probably the single-most abused adjective.
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ExoGuy

If you cannot see the obvious conflict of interest I mention then I don't know what to say. Nobody is going to pay $30 to have a non-scarce coin appraised by a dealer at a coin shop. If a non-coin collector brought in a 1893-S Morgan in MS condition and the appraiser/dealer told the non-collector that the coin was worth $100 and then bought it from him for $100 what would you call that besides fraud? If you sell something to someone who does an appraisal on that thing you are asking to be robbed unless you actually know the value yourself. When I buy a coin I know the value before I ever make an offer. If I had a very valuable coin I would get it graded and not rely on a local dealer/coin shop.
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terry - Must disagree. I don't think twslisa has said any thing more than the dealer gave her a $30 opinion, that's all. But importantly, there is absolutely no conflict of interest here even if he had made an offer! Most uninformed people go to a LCS for an offer - that's what a coin shop does, help people liquidate what they have found or inherited. Most dealers (esp. ANA, PCGS members) are ethical or they would not stay in business for long.
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