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*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ebay photo added to allow longer viewing of this coin. ***I believe the dealer is on cc and I am kind of scratching my head, the coin screams PMD, and I think same for a couple other of his postings, can anyone else pipe in with their opinion? http://www.ebay.com/itm/CANADA-Larg...1?nav=SEARCH
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Canada
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It has the look of PMD (I say that as the seller). Nevertheless...if someone knows how the 2nd set of beads and a 2nd raised "REGINA" ended up on the obverse, I would love to know... |
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It looks like a hammer job to me but, for some of these, you have to see them in hand .. not on a computer screen.
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Canada
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The obverse looks hammer job, but those extra set of raised letters is not the result of a hammer job... Can we see more pictures?
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Canada
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Quote:It has the look of PMD (I say that as the seller). Nevertheless...if someone knows how the 2nd set of beads and a 2nd raised "REGINA" ended up on the obverse, I would love to know... I agree.. I still place it in the "amazing category"..until Roger or another expert tells us differently.. |
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Australia
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I am struggling to see what has happened here. There is NO doubling of the Queens bust although half of it is in the affected area and what on earth is that "U" shaped mark on the Queens neck? It doesn't belong to any part of this coins design. There does appear to be some doubling but only in a small area on the right hand side of the obverse but Nothing but crushed metal on the reverse with the metal being extruded outwards as if crushed/struck with some degree of force. There is also NO evidence of any doubling on the left hand side of the obverse to match up with the extra beads on the other side of the coin. All in all a very strange piece and I look forward to a logical explanation as to how something like this could have possibly occurred in the press .  Edited by trout1105
10/02/2016 10:40 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Looks like they made a false die, and wacked the penny into it
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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yeah, it's double struck....with a hammer....
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Feel free to call me Will.
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That 10-cent with the deformed 8 is definitely coin Rolling Machine Damage, metal displacement by shearing. I wrote about that phenomena in the September 2014 CN Journal. You also see the same things on the silver coins.  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Canada
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The large cent is definitely post-mint alteration. THIS is what double struck Victorian coins look like (courtesy of Zonad's PCGS error showcase): http://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/coi...433972&sid=0There is incredible force when dies strike a blank or a coin. The rim and the gradational transition on the reverse speak nothing of being double struck, and speak everything of being squeezed by pressure a whole lot less than dies. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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 there's no reason or perhaps argument for how this PMD error came about, it can't stand to reason without failure. |
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"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Similarity is non-existent, yet similar in event is there, somehow this one rings PMD all over it, wish I had the reasoned answer for it. |
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Posted 10/02/2016 01:17 am
