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You Vs ICCS 1891 Llsd Cent...to PCGS Or Not To PCGS...

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Honestly the pictures don't to this coin justice...

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MS-65
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ms 65 rd. you could send to PCGS but I wouldnt expect any higher in terms of grade. PCGS prefers clean devices (ICCS likes clean fields). So I think you'd get a 65 red from PCGS too, just because of the mark on her nose and cheek, as well as the chatter along her neck/cheek
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 Posted 10/07/2016  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialtokens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin MS 65 red
I believe PCGS would cross-grade MS 65 red also.
May as well leave it in ICCS.

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 Posted 10/07/2016  11:04 am  Show Profile   Check NumisCat's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisCat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This should be sent to PCGS, where it will receive the MS65 Red assessment it deserves. Fantastic piece.
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Absolutely yes to PCGS. The value in PCGS grades with Canadian bronze is in the colour (coins designated as "red" get two bonus points in registry points). So a MS-64 Red can be more desirable than a MS-65 RB. A registry set player would bid strongly for this coin.
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MS-65 for me too. I hope it has the Obverse designation as Obverse 2.
Charlton only go as high as MS-63 for this coin and it's $6500.

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So....This coin is rare enough in MS64 and never seen in MS65 (ICCS or PCGS). PCGS has only ever graded one in MS-64 "red" (From the Belzberg collection) which sold in 2003 through Heritage. Personally I have never seen many nicer cents in hand so to see this coin get an MS64 at ICCS I thought was conservative but I can understand where designating a coin a sole condition survivor takes some pondering. I'm not sure where this coin lost points. I recently got back an 1896 MS65 (posted here) with much less appeal. So off to PCGS it goes with a resonable shot at a 65. BTW, note the error on the flip...Maybe it was just a rough day....


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Yes big dollar mistake on the flip
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I was going to say 66. I think it's a great coin. The obverse lettering and bust is simply amazing.
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Update us once it comes back from PCGS. It'll be a while though
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Remarkable example and congrats.
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Wow, can't even get the date right.
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Stunning coin! Wow!
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Are the pictures not working for anyone else? Would like to see the coin and the links seem to be broken.
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