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I found this lovely coin in my deceased father's collection. I really like its design, but I don't know much about it. If my Internet research is correct, its KM number is Tn3. Is this the catalog number typically used for it? How would you assess its condition?   |
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Very nice coin you have. I'm thinking in the EF range.
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Bedrock of the Community
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It has EF details but, been cleaned.
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Thanks for the input. Here are some more photos without glare. Does it still look as if it has been cleaned?   Edited by Monnaie
10/11/2016 8:05 pm
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larger pictures would help, but I am seeing corrosion issues.
the details are all there to be AU, or at least very close to it.
- george's sword does not merge into horses thigh, visor and chest strap defined, as are bridle and reigns
- bands on the cornucopia show individual dots, as does the rope that crosses the anchor. sword edges well defined.
1857 is the easiest of this series to find in great condition.
regardless of rarity or value, & because it came from your father's collection, I would call it a keeper.
Edited by Wade
10/11/2016 8:28 pm
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These images should be a bit larger. These coins weren't stored properly, so corrosion is a possibility. Should it get a conservation "cleaning"? This does seem like a good coin to keep in the family, especially because the likely original collector (my great-grandfather) lived in Canada for a while.   |
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if you want a prettier example for the sake of collecting they can be found.
if it's "dad's coin" then it is fine the way it is. "conserving" would likely make it worse.
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I concur with Wade's assessment, AU 50 (maximum) details with issues.
(minor pitting and corrosion and a weakly struck reverse).
Net is in the neighbourhood of XF 40/45.
doug
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Thanks for your very helpful assessments!
Does anyone know off the top of their head why the Bank of Upper Canada issued tokens, anyway? If not, I'll do some googling when I have more time.
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there was very little circulating coinage between 1800-1858 so private banks were issued permission (from the UK) to mint these (and a lot of others) in order to fill the need.
in 1858 Canada was formed and switched to the decimal system (cents instead of pennies, dollars instead of pounds).
being the last year of issue these saw little circulation which is why they can be easily found in AU/UNC condition.
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10/12/2016 2:36 pm
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very nice enhancement
photos(imo)
may I ask if your Father
was a collector
tia
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Does it still look as if it has been cleaned? Just goes to show how photos held one way and then held another can do. The first photo looked like a bad cleaning to me then, your next photo shows a very nice coin so, this is why it is hard to grade coins from pictures. |
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where all the Bank of
Upper Canada tokens 1/2 pennies
and full pennies..1850-1857
Minted in Ontario ?
i could not find this info on line
tia
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1850 issues came to being through Rowe, Kentish & Co London (the initials on the tokens). The Royal Mint struck these, and also started the 1852 run. They were unable to complete the 1852 issues and so subcontracted them to Ralph Heaton & Co Birmingham. 1854 and 1857's were all from the Heaton Mint. Royal Mint strikings have medal alignment while Heaton's are coin alignment. |
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