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Bedrock of the Community
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Rest in Peace
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Quote:We always had a rule of thumb when buying collectible knives off ebay which was you could usually resell for the third highest bid. That's worth serious consideration. You make a good point.
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What is an AU quarter eagle 1911-D that has been cleaned actually worth? How do you accurately judge that? I guess I would put in a low ball bid as my maximum and just stand back and see if I win it. It will be a good learning experience because you will see what it actually sells for and that can guide you in the future. The grading books only really tell you what problem free, non-cleaned coins sell for in a certain grade. The rest is educated guess work. I bought a 1938-D LWH in MS condition except for deep scratches in the front of the coin. I got it dirt cheap from dealer, so I assume it is not very valuable. It is amazing what some scratches can do to the value of an exceptional coin. Improper cleaning also has an unpredictable negative effect.
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Bedrock of the Community
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So you got the '38-D dirt cheap. Tell us what appeals about a disfigured coin at a cheap price. 
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This is why I dislike the modern grading systems. Net grading accepts that defects, from the trivial to the major, reduce the effective grade (and its value) of a coin more for some folks than others. One person may be okay with a light cleaning or a few small scratches, another wants perfect surfaces only, some will tolerate heavy clash, cracks, Cuds or Machine Doubling, some will not, same for planchet flaws, weak strikes, color variations, toning vs. no toning...many other such things. To answer your question -- terry -- it's worth at least $1600 apparently. ;) The old wisdom is that even if a buyer and a seller can never agree on a grade, they can always agree on a price. Nowhere is that more true than coins with issues. If someone tells me they want to collect a coin that has issues...good for them. I'll approach that differently than if they tell me they want to INVEST in a coin that has issues. I know some collectors who have put together things like holed type sets, plugged early type sets, lowball gold, love token type sets, and all kinds of other interests that wouldn't appeal to investors. I think we should never assume that someone is buying a coin as an investment unless they tell us they are doing so -- otherwise, it's their money, and their collection, and only they know what they're collecting and why it's of interest to them, so let them at it. The hobby, the collector, and the seller all benefit, and if it saves more pieces of history from a grim future in the melt-bucket, then what more noble outcome is there?
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Quote: What is an AU quarter eagle 1911-D that has been cleaned actually worth? How do you accurately judge that? You would look at past auction realized prices and find a detail coin or coins that are close in grade and condition. There have been 12 of the NGC or PCGS 1911 strong D that have sold at auction in the past 2 years not including ebay. The OP evaluation of the price is in the ball park for past detail examples that have sold at auction.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Can't argue. If you want a scarce coin with a details grade, you have plenty of references. 
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So it looks like it went for just over $2000 bid price, which is $2250 with buyer's premium. $2000 was right around what you said your maximum was. Did you get it?
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CoinFrog
What appealed at the time about the really fine 38-D LWH was I only paid $40 for it and it was almost perfect except for the flaws. Since the I got a 38-D in VF with no flaws. Just try and find a early LWH in VF or EF condition except maybe at HA. Maybe I can sell the flawed 38-D to someone since they did only make less than 500,000 of them. That is the only disfigured coin I have and the LWH is the first set I ever completed. Live and learn.
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No, I was in till $1,500. I thought that would be a steal and I decided to go with some of the above advise and save another grand or two to get a problem free coin. Although, I was intrigued when someone had said this one could be a potential break out and re-grade as problem free, but that's a gamble.Thanks everyone for the input.
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Rest in Peace
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Sorry you didn't get the coin but I'm with you -- you can only gamble when you're sure you'll be okay if it doesn't go your way.
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I think you made a wise choice. I was the one that said it could regrade problem free. But I also said it is entirely possible there are obvious wipe marks that don't show up in the photo. So it really would be a gamble and one I wouldn't have taken unless I had the coin in hand and could examine it at any angle under good lighting. Saving up more money means you have to wait longer to get your coin but in the long run it will be worth it.
Edited by Saruma 10/17/2016 6:16 pm
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There are some coins that will always sell, details or not, as long as it is genuine. An 11-D quarter eagle is one of them.
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I agree with grumpy56.
$2.50 Indians is a short series, only 15 coins. The 11D is the only hard coin for the set. Many collectors would never pay $2000 to $4000 for a single coin.
To find a coin with a light cleaning at a good price is something most of us hope for. Us being those who can not pay big dollars for a single coin ... that includes me.
I would bet all the coins like this one the OP bid on, see a lot of bidding when they do come up for auction.
That should tell us all ... that not everyone hates detailed coins.
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