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I don't like coins with real people especially presidents not to get political but it seems too much like an imperial presidency. So when did it start?
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For general issue coins (not commemoratives) since the establishment of the US Mint, I believe it would be the Lincoln Cent in 1909.
Edited by Coinfrog 10/13/2016 7:49 pm
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James Longacre, designer of the Indian cent, is believed to have used his daughter, Sarah, as a model for that coin. It's no wonder that the "Indian" looks anything but Native American!
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And I know Morgan used a model as well but neither was recognizable as a real person. So the Lincoln it is? Was the Roosevelt next?
Edited by jaxenro 10/13/2016 7:59 pm
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Edited by clairhardesty 10/13/2016 8:09 pm
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I think it was Washington on the quarter in 1932.
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Edited by Numisma 10/13/2016 8:06 pm
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And of course, every dead President and First Lady ever on the golden dollar and $10 1/2 oz gold coins.
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If we include commemoratives, I think the the 1892 Columbus Half would take the crown.
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I wanted to post the same thing: the Columbus half dollar. (Immediately followed by the Isabella Quarter.) I think there were a few pre-federal coins that featured real people (notably Washington). They are all very rare, however.
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How could I forget the Washington I have owned so many of them. Columbus I am ok with, Franklin too,I think it is just presidents I dont like on coins
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Depends on how you define "US Coin"
If we exclude medals, tokens, commemoratives, and restrict the definition to circulating denominated coins in the United States, Lincoln wins.
However, open up the window just slightly to allow territories and not just states, and you might remember that in 1883 the United States minted multiple denominations of circulating silver coins for the Kingdom of Hawaii under the rule of King David Kalakaua I. Hawaii had not yet been annexed by the United States (that happened 15 years later) but the coins were minted in the United States! By 1883 the United States already had a noticeable presence in the islands: wealthy businessmen in the land-theft business and soldiers garrisoned to "protect" the monarchy after the Riots of '74. So if we assume that the Hawaiian coinage continued to circulate there after annexation, while Hawaii was still a territory, then the 1883 issue of Kalakaua predates Old Abe's appearance by 11 years (became a US Territory in 1898 - Lincoln shows up in 1909.)
If you go even further back, I'd vote for Washington "cent" from 1792.
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The Washington "cent" was made in England. If you stick with US coins and include Commemoratives then it would be Collumbian half in 1892, But while he was a real person the portrait is made up. The Isabella Quarter is next in 1893, but once again the portrait is not real. Next would be the Lafayette dollar in 1899 with Washington and Lafayette, and in this case the bust are based on actual images of the people in question (busts sculpted by Houdin while the subjects were alive to model for them.)
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 Okay, since circulating coins weren't specified, this means that pattern coins count. Here's an 1863 Washington Two Cent Piece, Judd-305, Pollock-370, R.4 ...  Then too, here's the earliest U.S. coin, bearing the portrait of a living person, King George, that I have in my counterstamp collection ... (stamped by a Tory?) ...    Oh, and let's not forget the 1847 Hawaiian Cents that were designed in the U.S. and believed to have been struck at a private mint. These bear the image of King Kamehameha III. 
Edited by ExoGuy 10/14/2016 9:35 pm
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I should have specified I was thinking of US coins for general issue made for the US although the others are fascinating. Coins from other countries often featured a picture of the reigning monarch and although the US only allows dead presidents it still seems a bit imperial to me. Perhaps why I don't mind Franklin as much he was more of an elder statesman than president Probably why even in my junk silver I try to stick with Mercury and before dimes and liberty and before quarters and halves.
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