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8 Years Later... And I Still Don't Know What The Heck This Is.

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 Posted 10/27/2016  09:24 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coinpictures to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Commentary and photos from 2008 on another forum when I acquired it; never did get a good answer as to what exactly it is and/or why someone would have created it.

Any ideas?

Got this in the mail today. After spending time examining the coin extensively with both
a 10x loupe and my USB microscope, I'm pretty convinced the third farthing image is
counterstamped and not machined. This would imply that whomever did the counterstamp
had one of the third farthing dies.

From the full coin shots, it looks like there might be a gap between the counterstamp
and the host coin, meaning the penny could have been machined and a plug with
the third farthing reverse inserted, but I cannot actually detect any gap, hence my
including the closeup shots taken via microscope. You can see that there are no seams
between the counterstamp and the host.

If it was machined and plugged, the tolerances used were very tight.

Definitely weird. But cool...


And follow-up after some discussion:

Coin weighs 8.93 grams, according to my scale, which according to Krause, is about a half gram light (should be 9.45 grams).

So apparently it is machined, although how or why is beyond me...




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 Posted 10/27/2016  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eagle_eye_18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to say machined then press fit. On your closeup I see evidence of lathe work probably from a counterbore operation.
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Given that the obverse seems authentic for a 1917 one penny coin, my initial guess would be a counterstamped one penny, where the counterstamp seem to be the reverse of a one third farthing, maybe even using a one third farthing reverse die. Not sure if the reverse of the penny was 'prepared' with a drill before being counterstamped, though.

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I thought I had this all figured out until I checked the dates.

I thought, perhaps, it was the product of some mint shenanigans. But the dates don't allow for that.

I suppose it was just machine shop fun for somebody. People do weird stuff to coins.
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