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Diving Goose Dollar

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 Posted 03/15/2008  4:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
At the last coin club meeting, someone showed us a Canadian 1967 centennial dollar which has a reverse rotated 45 degrees...appears the goose is diving! What is this coin worth in BU and proof condition?
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 Posted 03/15/2008  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
According to Charest's book, the diving goose is $175 in MS60, $225 in MS63 and $1800 in PL64
There's also a double-struck $1 that's listed at $900 in MS60, no PL prices given.
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 Posted 03/15/2008  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, KurtS
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 Posted 03/16/2008  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Only $175 in MS-60?
Wow I would have thought much much more. They certainly are interesting coins though.
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I was only a kid then in '74, at a coin show in Quebec. This exhibitor had binders FULL of 2x2s of 1967 diving goose(s). Each diving at various (disputable) angles. There were so many of them... Hundreds. Thousands maybe.

This cannot be rare I thought to myself.

And over the years I did in fact discover many coins with some degree of rotation... including the infamous "diving goose".

Till this day, I never saw the "diving goose" as a compelling coin. As such I believe $175 in MS-60 is more than adequate.

Marc

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 Posted 03/16/2008  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And I find that Charest often prices a little low against market, depending on the coin. So perhaps these go for more?
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 Posted 03/17/2008  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

After a certain angle, say when the goose is "crashing" 90 deg I'd say price would definitely do up to 1k. If the goose is completely up side down then wow, 3-5k? (This is wild goose.. guess I mean).

Marc

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 Posted 03/17/2008  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Marc,

If there's an "inverted flight" goose, then I want one!
I think mine is a "stalling goose" at best.
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 Posted 03/17/2008  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Actually Kurt, Charlton 62nd edition p132 lists the "inverted flight" MS-63 at $3,500.00 -

Marc
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 Posted 03/18/2008  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats more of the price I am used to seeing... I guess it does all depend on the degree of rotation.
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 Posted 03/18/2008  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panthercham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have one that is slanted towards the bottom slightly but it is not diving.
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 Posted 04/12/2008  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gbrake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just found one in a Proof Like set. The goose is diving to the left at about 45 degrees down from horizontal. Does anyone know what the set would be worth?
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 Posted 04/14/2008  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow...congrats! The only values I've seen are for the coin alone.
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Which brings up a point I have had for some time: How does one tell for sure, (without an overlay), whether the obv/rev are in sync, or not? There is no "zero-point" on the obv, to use as a reference, like the rev, use of the word "cent" at 090/270, referring to the cent,obviously. Ours, (the US coins) have a number of reference points that can be used.
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Dick--good question! For the obverse, I don't exactly know what is the "level" position for the portrait.
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The goose's normal level position is completly horizontal when the queen's head is pointing to 12 o'clock. My wife actually discovered my "diving" goose when I was looking at the Queen's head and she asked me if the goose was suposed to be "diving". I then checked it in a mirror. Sure enough I have a Canada silver dollar "diving goose" in a Proof Like coin set. I have attached an obverse and a reverse photo.

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