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This is an ebay listed coin so some of you may have seen it. It almost looks like plated cast to me. But assuming real, what would cause this?

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Could you post a link to the ebay item?
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Corrosion.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Something, possibly a piece of tape, was positioned there.
It contained something corrosive.
If it was tape the corrosive compounds ate away at the coin and when removed left the pitted area.

Another possibility, it was a strike-through.
Probably not cloth since that tend to leave the weave pattern.
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Whatever the "black stuff" is, it was likely corrosive. What is left of the black stuff is only on the pitted surface so that leads me to believe corrosion.
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In any case PMD and hence belongs in a junk box. Too bad.
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The fact that it's PMD is obvious. Any idea of what type of acid can eat at silver like this? I just found it interesting since I've never seen a silver coin eaten in quite that way.
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Yes, sorry. Nitric or sulfuric acid. They will both dissolve silver. They're both strong and nasty agents.
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Nitric or sulfuric acid. They will both dissolve silver. They're both strong and nasty agents.


...not as nasty as hydrofluoric acid (HF), which will dissolve almost any metal!!
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Salt, moisture and enough time can also do this.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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As I recall, hydrofluoric acid is used for etching designs on glass. Another one of my favorites in the nasty category is aqua regia (a mixture of nitric and hydrochloric acid). That one will dissolve both gold and platinum.
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My bullion dealer told me that rubber bands will corrode silverware, though I don't know how.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Salt, moisture and enough time can also do this.




Because the coin is so old, it could be a variety of things that caused the corrosion to occur. Some possibilities have been stated.

Also, sometimes, people just want to screw with coins and just see how they can destroy something.
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As to rubber bands most natural latex bands contain elemental sulfur in some form or another, that sulfur reacts with hydrogen in the air to produce hydrogen sulfide, which in turn reacts with the silver to form silver sulfide, releasing hydrogen back into the air..cycle repeats until no more silver available, no more hydrogen available or no more sulfur available. That's to the best of my (somewhat old) chemistry knowledge. AB
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A very weak solution of Hydroflouric Acid will etch glass. A weak solution 2% or 3% of HF will do the etching.

Kick it up to 100% HF and lets just say that poor quarter would be like butter in a microwave.
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why some one destroys a nice coin is awful
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