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Ancient Greek Drachma Coin --> Can Anyone Identify?

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I recently stumbled upon this link and noticed that I had the same exact coin and it triggered my curiosity.

I know links are not allowed, but this is the same coin listed here:


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Possibly Akragas (Sicily), c.275 - 240 BC. Obv: Laureate head of Zeus Hellanios right, Rev: Two eagles standing left, devouring hare upon which they stand. Similar to:


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Thanks for the reply. I don't think that it though. I found an image online that is identical to what I have but I can't identify it for some reason.



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I'm seeing a person driving a quadriga on the other side, not a portrait.
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I'm seeing a person driving a quadriga


Indeed. Fatigue setting in...very long hours at work.
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The image you found, Mike, is another issue of Akragas, similar to the one below...although note this is a very rare silver issue. I see, in quick glance of the fake coin reports, that this general type is heavily faked. Did another quick scan, this time of Wildwinds' Akragas page, and did not see any bronze issues of the type...unless I'm just missing it (like I said...feeling some fatigue).

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Wow thank you! How do I go about verifying its authenticity?
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Wow thank you! How do I go about verifying its authenticity?


Well, to begin with, I think you'd have to verify that there were ancient bronze issues of the type. I see none on Wildwinds or ACSearch, but I have not looked carefully at all. If there were no such bronze issues - and given the fact that it is a type prone to forgery - I'd say that's pretty damning. I hope I'm wrong!
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I'm not too familiar with the specifics. This coin was my grandparents and they've had it for a long time. We are hoping its real, and we are trying to take the steps necessary to validate it and put it on the market. Just out of curiosity, how are you concluding that the coin in bronze based on the pictures I posted?
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 Posted 11/01/2016  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Basing the assumption, Mike, on both the color of the metal and the green patina.
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@mikenahb, welcome to CCF.

It would be quite unusual for a silver coin to develop a green patina and this is most often seen on coins made from copper-based alloys. I hope that your grandparent's coin ends up being real, but remember that there were counterfeits made even back then.
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to the community.

The coin in question was only struck in silver as a dekadrachm it was a large coin weighing in at a little more than 43 grams.
It is listed as Sear number 749. If you can clean off some of the green deposit using a damp rag it might bring out more of the detail and my turn out not to be what we are thinking.
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Thanks for all of your help everyone!
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