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1883-H 5 Cents - Obverse 4

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looking to get a better understanding of this coin and what does obverse 4 mean? Would anyone the rough value of this

1883-H-5-Cents---Obverse-4

1883-H-5-Cents---Obverse-4

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 Posted 11/05/2016  05:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would check and double check to make sure that it's an Obv 4 which is quite rare. The coin itself looks better than VG, but the pics not real clear.
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Do you have a Charlton coin catalog? It (or any of the other standard catalogs of Canadian coins) explains how to diagnose the various obverse(s) associated with each date. In the case of the 1883H there are two possible obverses, one of which (Obv 4) is much scarcer than the other. Attributions stated on TPG holders are not always correct. Having a standard catalog is a must for dealing with the major varieties.
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I will head out to get the coin catalog today and educate myself a little more thanks for the feedback
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Hope this image is somewhat clearer

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 Posted 11/05/2016  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It sure looks like a 5 to me.
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Look at the way the forehead is shaped! I do believe okiecoiner is right on Obv. 5 for me also...

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That's not a 4.........CCCS...
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Obverse 4
1883-H-5-Cents---Obverse-4

Obverse 5
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definitely not an Obverse 4. The easiest way to tell is in the forehead. The Obv 4 is flattened in the middle, the Obv 5 is rounded
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The last Charlton lists only 17 known but there are more than this. Besides the one in my collection, I have cherry-picked another one in the last year which was raw.
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 Posted 11/05/2016  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Schooner ... Have Louis give you your money back for the cert or have him grade something else for free. Don't his "variety" gradings cost more?
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On an interesting note, that coin does not show up in the CCCS database. Probably hasn't been updated yet.
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to be fair to Louis I don't think he has seen this or he would have responded but I shall let him know and I'm sure he will correct it.
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It also looks better then VG-8
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i find it more likely that this was a typo than a grading miscue.
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