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Couple Of Questions On A Proof Dime

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I don't own this coin, these are just stock photos.

1) What is the little * mark by the L on the observe? It can't be a scratch because this coin graded a PF67. Is it some sort of crack?

2) If there a name for the "liquid" look of this coin? It isn't a bright white but almost looks mirror like but I dont think it's cameo. Or does it just look smooth/liquid-like because of lighting or the photo?

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1) Probably a crack in the slab plastic.

2) This is a brilliant proof, which was common back then, as opposed the cameo proof common today.
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Thanks jbuck. I know they still had Cameos in 1950 though.. is this just a higher grade proof because of it's luster?

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I think cameo was a byproduct with older proofs, whereas modern proofs are intentionally made to be cameo.
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The area you refer to does appear to be on the plastic, not the coin. Beautiful piece.
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The "liquid" look is usually referred to as "mirror". Your coin is a Brilliant Proof because it has no frosted high points. If it had frosted high points it would be called a Cameo Proof.
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The 1950 through 1964 proofs are often grouped together.

The OP's coins is the look most often found.

Cameo proofs from this era came from when the die was new.
The first coins from a new die set would produce cameo
proof coins. After minting a small number of coins the
coins would go to the all mirror type finish.
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This is not a very good picture for sure, but it does show the cam contrast on a 1950 proof very well.


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Thanks for the picture Coinfrog. I can usually tell a cameo because of the white look on the details of the coin (as on the Franklin above). However I'm far from an expert on proof coins, I am still trying to learn. The first coin I showed looked more mirror-like to me than other proofs I've seen. Here is a picture of a different 1950 PF67 that doesn't look as mirror-like than the coin in the OP. Or do you think it's just the lighting that makes these coins look different? What would you guys grade them?



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That looks more like a MS-67 than a PF-67. Rims look rounded, luster, even looks like flow lines in the fields.
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Conder- thanks for the input. That's actually a coin I do own and it's in a PCGS PR67 holder. I would be pretty disappointed if it was really a business strike as the 1950 proof is a key date while the business strike is not. If it is wrong I'm sure it's not the first time PCGS has labeled something wrong.
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