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Lincoln Get A Bop On The Nose - What Is It?

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I have seen variations of this "punch in the face" on quite a number of LWC. just wondering if it is a systemic error of sorts or are there just a lot of PMD coins that look like this?



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 Posted 12/01/2016  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like to me, someone took a knife and ran down Lincolns face.
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 Posted 12/01/2016  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like graffiti to me, too.
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 Posted 12/01/2016  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Either way just damage
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"Either way just damage" is not relevant to my question, and is not very encouraging to new folks to the board (like me) to post more coins with questions. I am interested in what causes something I see often enough, not whether it is just damage or not damage.

Thank you to those who gave thoughts on this. I never considered purposeful graffiti-esque modification as a possibility but certainly won't rule that out.

I grabbed a few more examples for comparative material:



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 Posted 12/01/2016  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does have that snow plowed look. PSD. Note how the metal was pushed in a direction.
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And yet most of these coins have no other major damage, not even scratches in the field right in front of the face. Whatever hits them hits them the same way each time and only leaves the punch in the face. My only thought has been something to do with the coin rolling machines that can leave the ring-shaped damage on the end coins.
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Long ago there used to be candy dispensers everywhere... put a cent in the slot, turn the handle hard 360 degrees, and out came the candy. I've often wondered if this action could do any damage to the surface of the cent such as seen here
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Now that just might be IT! I remember those things well, and if you got two coins in there it would turn part way and jam. The rotation would likely spin the coin until it hit the metal almost parallel, missing the field but scraping hard into the face. And would explain why this is almost always in the same place on the coin, since people tended to put them in sorta face-up obverse out. I have seen examples of this hitting the bust from the top or the back, but almost always right in the face. Thanks! I believe that is the answer to the mystery.
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Great possible solution. Good thinking.
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I am interested in what causes something I see often enough, not whether it is just damage or not damage.

The problem is that attempting to figure out the specific cause of damage on a coin can be something of a fool's errand unless you were the person who damaged the coin in the first place. There is an almost infinite number of ways to damage a coin and very few of them can be positively attributed so discussions regarding the cause of damage typically just turn into endless speculation with no true cause elucidated.
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I tend to agree, but when there is a pattern I think that is worth exploring. It can be useful to know bag marks, road rash, Dryer Coins, acid bath, etc. to exclude those from interest quickly when they do come up, and know when something shows up that is not a standard damage type and might be worth a second look.
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