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Acetone -- OK To Use It Outside?

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Since some of my grandpa's coins were kept directly in those old notebook pages, I'm guessing there are some PVC issues, so it seems a good idea to give them an acetone bath, My thought was to do it out on my deck, so the chemical smell wouldn't be in the house. It's winter now, so likely it won't be very warm again until spring (which is fine by me--I like it cool). My deck is south-facing. Any problem with direct sunlight or cooler temps when doing this?
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From what I've read, I don't see a problem with the sun or temps (excluding above autoignition theshold). Some that I've done recently needed a LOT of attention so they stayed in nearly 48 hours (using new acetone halfway through). The only concern I would have is the acetone evaporating, which it does very quickly! I've been using 8oz Ball wide-mouth canning jars. They work well for me, the only problem being the acetone will eat away at the lid coating even after a short time, but they're easily replaceable. Keeping it sealed will prevent your coins from being left dry in a jar on the porch where moisture can attack.
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Why take the chance. Use it in normal room temperature. You don't want to damage anything when it comes to coins.
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I think that having plenty of ventilation (such as being outside) when using acetone sounds like a good idea.
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Doing outside is ok unless you have bad nosey neighbors . I wouldn't want them to know I have coins . When I do quick rinses I do it indoors . Just be cautious ,very flammable .
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Are we talking about a large number of coins here, and a large volume of acetone? While ventilation is a good thing, you may want to consider staying comfortably indoors with more control over your environment. Stuff happens: a breeze could blow towels away, coins could be dropped between deck slats... Anyway, I would do this one coin at a time to avoid coin-on-coin contact. I use a wee dram of acetone in a shot glass and wooden chop sticks for coin manipulation. Start with the relatively cleaner coins and work your way to the dirtier ones, then change the acetone and repeat as often as necessary. Keep vapors to a minimum by disposing the dirty acetone in a lidded jar, which can be taken outside later and opened. Avoid open flames.
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If you have a kitchen or bathroom with a vent fan, that will be adequate for minimizing fume exposure.
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Thanks, everybody! My mom, who comes over to my place frequently, is acutely sensitive to chemicals, so outdoors really is the best solution. My deck is mostly private; the only folks who have a good view of it are the two older ladies who live next door, and if I do it right, all they'd see is me coming and going, and a couple teacups sitting out there. They might smell acetone but I doubt they'd understand what was going on.

The one coin at a time advice is great. I see it working this way: I'd take a coin out, slip it in the acetone, give it several minutes, bring it back out, and slip it in a cup of fresh water for a rinse, then take it back inside to air dry indoors.

Most of these coins probably came out of the till at my grandpa's gas station. They are generally well circulated and many were cleaned, not to mention unless they are in holders (only a few that look store bought are), they've been stored for decades in direct contact with those notebook pages. There are no key dates (unless you count a couple 1950D nickels). So the value is more sentimental than monetary. I'd like to preserve them just because they were my grandpa's.

Any further advice is welcome. I won't be doing this for at least a few days.

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Oh, I also like the chopsticks idea, but I am too clutzy to be very good with them. I have some plastic tweezers, but does plastic hold up in acetone? I also have latex gloves. Do those hold up?
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My chopstick skills are good because I eat a lot of take-out. I haven't had much luck using plastic tweezers with acetone... either the plastic or dye inside dissolves. You may be able to find some Teflon coated metal tweezers somewhere; those should be okay - the PVC coated tweezers are to be avoided!
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Don't use it anywhere near a flame (like gas heaters) or any electrical ignition source (light switches, electric motors, lamps) and you should be good to go safety-wise. Outside use in a well ventilated area is always best when using any type of solvents.

An acetone fire burns very clean and the flames are almost invisible ... Especially in the daytime.

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The one coin at a time advice is great. I see it working this way: I'd take a coin out, slip it in the acetone, give it several minutes, bring it back out, and slip it in a cup of fresh water for a rinse, then take it back inside to air dry indoors.


skip the water after acetone rinse. rinse with clean acetone instead.
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I just use my fingers. the acetone will dry your skin a little but isn't bad
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Outside is the best place to use acetone. Just make sure that flame isn't anywhere near the stuff!
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Thanks again for the wealth of advice. I was thinking I'd buy the acetone and wait for a day when the temp is in the 50's. The spot I had in mind is just outside my sliding glass door (it's in a corner that is basically invisible to anyone without a telescope, except the ladies next door), and the only potential ignition source near it is a capped outdoor plug socket. That should be OK, right?

The nice thing about this deck is it's 2nd floor, so nobody could just walk up and see what I'm up to, or snatch the coin if I wa away for a minute.
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The sun won't cause a problem and the only effect from the cold would be the acetone will evaporate just a little slower.
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