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What Next? Doctoring Up An AU 1917 T1 SLQ

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Purchased this coin a couple of weeks back and started working on it last night some. Not sure what my next step should be. I'm trying to get the crud removed.

The results below are after a 2-hour Acetone soak. The luster is really starting to come through!

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 Posted 12/14/2016  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good luck with your continued work. Not to be discouraging, but I'm not certain acetone will help much more. I hope I'm wrong.
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It looks like the dreaded rubber band mark on the obverse. Can't help you.
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You have silver corrosion on the reverse around the eagle's head and in some of the letters. It does not matter that much whether you make the bright or leave it black, it will either have "environmental damage" or "improper cleaning." There is no way to fix advanced silver tarnish like this.

I hope that you paid a price that was commensurate with the problems.
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Paid about 50% of FMV of a non-issue coin. I'm guessing it's AU55 underneath all of that mess...maybe AU58.

I will give it a longer soak in Acetone this weekend...just to see if anything loosens up.
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This is not a matter of "loosening up the mess." The coin is MADE OF the mess; the metal is oxidized. You can remove the layer of oxidized metal, but when you remove metal it becomes "improper cleaning." It is a no win situation.

The coin has probably spent some time in the ground and might be a metal detector find. The sharpness grade means something, but perhaps not as much as you might think.
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I don't think any more Acetone baths will benefit this coin . If it didn't have two nasty rim issues, one obv. and one rev.; I might have tried a 3 second silver dip . Maybe get an AU-55/58 out of it .
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The obverse "rim issue" is just the dark grime, it's not a nick/bump or anything. The reverse rim issue near 1:00 is a small nick.
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Beyond recovery. You never get more than you pay for, but you can very easily get less, as in this case.
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Might be worth a shot at a 50/50 and second acetone.
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If you want, you could try dipping this coin. It will look "off," though more attractive.
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Good idea, but I think this is a lost cause.
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It has always been a problem, figuring out how much to pay for
a problem coin. Many times a big factor is how rare the coin is.

CCF recently had a 1901 S metal detector find posted, that sold
for good money.

A problem coin that does not look to bad can get some good money.

There are some collectors that might pay Fine grade price for a AU Details
coin ... if it doesn't look to bad.

Some of these dark lines/stains might be very hard to get off the coin.
Working on a coin like this is a gamble. You might make it look better
or you might make it worse.

If I had this coin I might try MS 70 coin cleaner next ... but that is me,
I would not suggest someone else to clean a coin. Many cases it
will look more like a cleaned coin.
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I use a mixture called E-Zest and it is great. It will not transform a black coin into a gleaming silver beauty. I very quick dip with this stuff and your average grimy coin will look better. I am thinking of all the black Morgans I have seen which is a sort of toning I guess but not attractive. It won't help with that. It won't help with the back of that SLQ, but who knows. It is cheap.
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