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What Is Your Opinion Of Grade On This TPG 1857 Fec?

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Some of you may have seen this offered and I thought it was kind of interesting. If you haven't already seen the grade on the slab, what would you say the grade is? TPG grade later tonight.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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12/18/2016 3:37 pm
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It looks like a press set-up coin. The technical grade is AU, but to me it's only worth VF+ money. To collectors who are into this sort thing, it's worth more, but if I were such a collector I'd play it coy and work the negotiation angle. At any rate I can't see this selling for AU money
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12/18/2016 3:59 pm
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So much for the sight-unseen TPG slab market then...
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Not my cup of tea. I would have to get it really really cheap.
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For AU money I'd want to see AU detail. Error coins are kind of neat but not high on my priority list.
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Certainly not very appealing whatever its rarity or value.
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It looks like an uncirculated at MS-62 with a really terrible strike both sides. A good example of why strike plays such an important part of value, in this case much to the negative, I'm sure.
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Looks AU from the luster, but the strike is crappy, or there was a strike through grease. My example is similar, but yours has more luster and less detail.
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I bid $5 on this but didn't win it. Surprised that it was in a straight up AU58 holder. It ended up selling for $245 which is pretty high given that normal 58s go for around $325. 16 bidders and 47 bids on this one. Listing is here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1857-1C-PCG...047675.l2557

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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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12/18/2016 9:16 pm
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Looks like a Greaser to me. I'm not sure it could be a die adjustment strike with such a strong central strike on the obverse.

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Greaser, suprised it even graded that and sold for that
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Impressive Greaser. My appealing to me at all.
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 Posted 12/19/2016  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely AU for wear, just not a very good strike.
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