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1875 S Twenty Cent Piece

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I just received this 1875-S Twenty Cents today.

It has dark gray toning with silver peeking out around Liberty and the eagle and underneath the toning. It's got dirt on it which makes me think (hope?) that the toning is original and the coin has not been cleaned. There are no obvious cleaning marks on it.

The L in LIBERTY is not visible, but the other letters are clear. There is a lot of detail on Liberty's gown and the eagle's breast feathers are well-struck.

I know the obverse on the Twenty Cents can be poorly struck.

Does this coin have a shot at EF?

Thanks for your opinions.

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I see luster in the protected areas on the reverse. I say it just makes EF-40.

And I believe your coin is completely original and problem-free. Nice coin!
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nice looking coin I think its higher VF Great Buy for $86! Here are pics of my XF40

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Does this coin have a shot at EF?


It does but based on what I see it looks like a VF+, perhaps a 35. It does appear to be a nice example.
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To my eye, this double dime is tiptoeing the line between VF-35 and XF-40.
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Thanks for the responses so far.

I'm glad to hear people think it is original and has not been cleaned. Maybe, just maybe, I'm getting better at spotting the differences between original and cleaned (and retoned)!

I won it for $86 and am happy to finally have a nice 20 cent piece in my collection.
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You did very well.
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I should also add that I didn't know the 20 Cent Piece has a plain rim until I received this coin.

Was that to distinguish it from a quarter?
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I would say it is in the higher VF range as well - 30-35. A screaming bargain at $86. Easily - easily - worth twice that based on my experience with these.
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I don't see much difference in wear between the two coins, and the reverse on the first example may well be better. The sticker is the letters LI in Liberty, which appear in the poster's pic to be virtually gone. This may well be a strike issue, but it's probably enough to keep it in the high VF range.
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I see a little more wear on the OPs coin in shield and legs area on obverse and on the wings and neck area on reverse. That's why I said VF
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The seller killed himself with those pictures. The weak obverse strike didn't help.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1875-S-TWEN...047675.l2557
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weakly struck obverse. reverse has XF details but I also think it would grade VF35 straight and if I saw this for that price i'd scoop it up post haste
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Jerrys obverse with Pauls reverse would be a sweet coin.
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The reverse is a clear XF-40. Obverse has that typical light strike, but it forces the whole coin into a 35 in my book.

Still a thieves guild buy for that price.
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The sticker is the letters LI in Liberty, which appear in the poster's pic to be virtually gone. This may well be a strike issue,


Remember on Twenty Cent coins the word Liberty is raised instead of incuse like on other Seated coinage. Many coins also show strike weakness in this spot.

http://doubledimes.com/Grading.html

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