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3 To Id: Pretty Scarce Coins I Think

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First one is a Rome commemorative- RO-MA with helmeted bust of Roma / P-R with soldier. Wildwinds rates it at very rare, but I want to say I recall hearing that it was scarce or even "less common".

Second is Constantine the Great, but I haven't seen that reverse? DACIO something?

Are the pics for the third coin correct? Both of those would be reverse designs, which could not happen because the reverse die was fixed to the anvil.
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PACI P_ERPET / XII
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Yes the pictures are correct
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Strange lettering on that second coin. Thanks Bob!

Third has me completely stumped. The victory side looks like a post-Constantine bronze, but I think the last ruler to issue a Jupiter seated type was during the Tetrarchy? I only got one hit under Diocletian, but that one features a Victory on the globe.
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Bob L already got it (without explanation), but #3 is Anonymous Pagan: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/do...ith/f72.html (same coin as in Bob's link above, apparently).
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All three of these coin types are less common than the majority of Tetrarchic and Constantinian bronze.

The city commemorative for RO MA has been discussed earlier I believe.

The PACI PERPET issue from the mint at Rome is a favorite of mine and not commonly seen.



The coin illustrated by january1may is another of the civic issues of Antioch, but not the same as the OP coin or the third illustration Bob gave.

The autonomous civic issues of Antioch were not Imperial coins, so are not listed in RIC. Other sources need to be consulted for their story. David Vagi in his two volume Coinage and History of the Roman Empire does give a little space to them. Three of the members of the 1st Tetrarchy (Doicletian, Galerius, and Maximinus II Daia) supported a persecution of Christians from 305-313 until they agreed to end it in 313 with the edict of Toleration. A major coin production city in each of the three domains over which these emperors had oversight (Antioch, Nicomedia, and Alexandria) was allowed to produce autonomous coins expressing their preference for paganism and their support of the persecution. The output from Antioch was large and complex. Their VICTORIA AVGG was a large issue and is the most common.
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Thanks for the heads up guys, a great help
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