Canada 1c 1859 Dp9 No.5 ICCS AU-50 - Poor Grading

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canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 12/27/2016 11:16 pm Recently, I sent two 1859 DP9 No.5 coins to PCGS for cross grading. One was a CCCS MS60. The other was a ICCS MS60. I came across this ICCS AU50 on ebay and spit coffee all over my monitor. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1859-Large-....m2518.l4276 I have ICCS VF30 pennies that look as good as this one, with the same amount of wear. So is this simply "grading creep" or did someone swap out a real AU50 coin and replace it with a VF30 example? This coin is not AU. Not even close. Not even PCGS AU. I must admit I admire the courage of the Landon Sale buyers buying the ICCS MS66s and MS67s. I would bet those coins will never cross at PCGS. * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Edited by canadian-varieties 12/27/2016 11:27 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Alan Pillar of the Community Canada 1463 Posts	Posted 12/28/2016 12:22 am Not an expert on this issue by any means. but I do know there are some light strikes. Reverse looks sharp? I agree it looks quite overgraded, like a 40 at very best? I'm not a big believer in ICCS. Too many inconsitiancies and mistakes in my humble opinion. Report this Post to the Staff
BigSilver Pillar of the Community United States 2843 Posts	Posted 12/28/2016 06:57 am Well, I hope you learned a lesson. Don't ebay and drink coffe at the same time. Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 12/28/2016 07:19 am Pretty terrible photos of a very dark coin. Although this apparently did receive a generous grade they had it in their hand when they graded it. They've undoubtedly graded a lot more of these than I have. So with the photos of a dark coin shot through plastic I'm not going to second quess the grade. Better photos would certainly be necessary, especially with such a valuable coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Wade Pillar of the Community Canada 2781 Posts	Posted 12/28/2016 12:50 pm Agree with Alan's comments, my initial thought was also 40 with room to move seeing it in hand. Maybe crack your 30 and resubmit raw Report this Post to the Staff
SHAFTA9a Bedrock of the Community Canada 10743 Posts	Posted 12/28/2016 3:29 pm Absolutely no good to try to grade that coin with those pictures. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 12/28/2016 5:09 pm Can't disagree, but from what I can see of the obverse, the grade does seem generous. Report this Post to the Staff
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