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20 Islamic Coins - Gold Coins And Others - Can Anybody Tell Me Their Value?

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 Posted 12/28/2016  06:24 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Grusma to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can anybody tell me the value of the coins in this ebay listing?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/222359753758

I want to own them but the price seems a little too much.

Thanks
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 Posted 12/28/2016  07:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Only 4 hours left so you may not be able to get a firm answer from an expert in that field. From what I could see, none of the coins looked particularly valuable, but most of the photos were too poor to fully identify any of them.

It looks much higher priced than the value presented.

I would recommend a pass, especially in a field that requires particular knowledge.
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My main interest are the 2 gold ones (on the bottom left), would really like to know their value. After searching online couldn't find any useful info
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Don't bid!

The larger of the two gold coins does not appear to be genuine, but rather a "belly dancer token" or jewelry copy in brass made to be fastened to a (modern) belly dancer costume. Can't say about the smaller gold, but it doesn't sit right with me.

The holed coins are tin coins from southeast Asia (Indonesia?). They might be worth $5 by themselves.
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not sure, it just looks to me with less amount of gold
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This is not my area of collecting but from what I have seen of the coin types in the sale they are no way near the price the seller is asking. I agree with Finn about the gold look pieces, they do not appear genuine. I would avoid this group.
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 Posted 12/29/2016  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Grusma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the greetings :)

They don't seem fake to me. I have some ancient gold coins some with more gold, others with less gold and they look the same.

I just would like to know the real value of these coins on the market, seems its very difficult to find information about islamic coins online.

Any ideas where I can research more about this? Or anyone familiar with this market?
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Any ideas where I can research more about this?


Try searching Johor Sultanate kupang or Abdul Jalil Shah gold kupang, or terms like that.
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Do you have an interest in a specific area of Islamic coinage, or are you simply interested in owning Islamic gold?

Dinars issued during the "golden age" of Islam (c.700-1100) are so plentiful that you could buy certifird genuine, nearly mint state examples for $300-500. I have seen the holed, worn examples go for just a small amount over melt. The coins in that listing may or may not be genuine gold, but I would never drop that kind of money on a coin that I do not know well.
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@grusma, welcome to CCF. Sorry but I agree with the others that, unless new information comes to light, this lot seems overpriced. Islamic gold is not my specialty, but with regard to your question:


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Or anyone familiar with this market?


I would recommend Stephen Album. He literally wrote the book on Islamic coins.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb

"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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